right, i have made my decision i am going to order a alpine head unit this morning, replys dependent! lol now have been looking thru ebay, and compareing with car audio direct, most ebay head units are more expensive???. but i am at a total loss. is it not normally the case the higher model number the better the unit. alpine dont seem to work like that from what i can tell. could some one put me right on what is a good solid alpine unit for around the 200 quid mark, hopefully a little less as i need a surround as well, cheers