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    First of please excuse my very limited engine knowledge!

    I have an 04 Vectra C 2.2 SRI Direct - manual/petrol - 85,000 miles

    Got it serviced just before xmas and today when I went to drive it - I noticed it was a bit sluggish. Also the heater would not give out any hot air. Warning light came on indicating that the coolant level was low - temp gauge also went up to just below the red after driving about 6 miles - as I was just round from the garage that serviced it, I took it round there - they filled up the coolant and asked me to drive it for a few miles & take it back - during this drive the temp gauge stayed just above the "normal" - when i took it back about 10 mins later - I watched as the mechanic opened the coolant overflow bottle and all teh coolant came spewing out the overflow thing - kinda like a volcano..

    He immediately said to me cylinder head gasket is away and will cost £1,000 to fix.

    Does all this seem correct diagnosis - looks quite claer to me and is the price about right? The garage I took it to is just a small independent one

    Any help would be appreciated

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    hi
    if your head gaskets gone you will normally see white milky stuff in the oil filler part.
    also what kind of idiot opens the coolent header tank when steaming hot (it will overflow)

    get a secound opinion m8 just to make sure you might just have a leek in the pipe work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhvcbv View Post
    hi
    if your head gaskets gone you will normally see white milky stuff in the oil filler part.
    also what kind of idiot opens the coolent header tank when steaming hot (it will overflow)

    get a secound opinion m8 just to make sure you might just have a leek in the pipe work.
    Thanks Mate

    I thought he was a bit of a cowboy when he burnt his hand :-)

    If it is HG any idea if the price of about £1,000 is in the ball park

    Appreciate your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo94735 View Post
    Thanks Mate

    I thought he was a bit of a cowboy when he burnt his hand :-)

    If it is HG any idea if the price of about £1,000 is in the ball park

    Appreciate your help
    hi m8
    not to sure about the price but dont think it will be any-where near £1000
    a few years ago i had my old laguna engine cam belt go and took my engine out and for that to be done was only £900 to be fixed
    new cam belt
    head gasket
    all new the valves
    head bolts
    engine cover
    and labour.

    cant see it costing to much, it will be the labour that costs and only a few hours work.

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    When the engine is hot, the coolant is pressurised (hence the pressure cap on coolant tank) releasing the cap quickly WILL result in a gushing coolant, almost everytime. This is especially true when there may still be air in the system somewhere.

    I would keep it topped up and checked every journey for a few days (carry some water with you) and see if it drops and how much you put in. As the number of journeys counts up you should not be needing to put any more water in as all the air will have been expelled. If you keep having to pit water in, then you are either losing it or using it.

    A CH gasket would probably cause either water in the oil or oil in the water. Can you check the dip stick for a mayonaise type material and also check the coolant tank for signs of oil. Also check the oil filler cap for mayo too. A little may be normal, alot of it isn't. You could also even het a 'sniff' test done on the coolant to sniff out any products of combustion in it.

    £1000 for a simple CH gasket seems high to me.

    A compression test (simple to do) should confirm if you have lost compression on one or 2 power cylinders and would therefore diagnose a gasket failure. This can even be done by meauring the starter current accurately with the right kit. Some garages may have this kit (something like PICO) but most probably will never have heard of it.

    If you can measure the start current you will see a power cylinder is down on compression by a reduced current peak when that cyclinder is at max compression.
    I don't have any charts with me at home, but I can post something from work tomorrow - just out of interest. You need to disable the spark plug coils or the car will simply fire and start. Here's something to demonstrate what I am on about.


    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74787

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    That mechanic sounds like a knobhead to me.....he deserves to burn himself.
    I agree with the other guys, if it was a HG then you would see oil in the coolant and milky substance on the dip stick.

    Hope it is nothing too serous mate.

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    Just a wee note a head gasket can go but not always cause the oil and water to mix. It can go and cause the combustion gases to enter the water channels putting pressure in the water system ( check for air bubbles coming up through expansion tank when running ) or the water can enter the cylinders causing poor running, steam from exhaust and excessive water use.

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    This is what I meant with the current measuring and looking at the current at cylinder compression peaks.

    You will notice that all the peaks are of similar magnitude - indicating that the compression on each is comparable. If everyforth peak was much lower than the rest, then it would suggest that one cylinder is low on compression. However, it wouldn't identify which cylinder unless you knew the engine start position. This info isn't that important as it would require a head off anyway to replace the gasket or at least it would support more work in determining which cylinder is down.

    This electrical method is really quick and doesn't require removal of anything - unlike a conventional compression test through either spark plug or glow plug apertures.



    This plot is actually from my mates Beetle and is completely normal in profile

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    great posts Ste!!! - wish I could bring it to you to fix!!!

    Vauxhall dealer in Grangemouth now saying when they do a HG they also do timing chain and some other things (she couldnt tell me what the othr things were) and the price will be £1200 FFS

    Anybody in central scotland looking for a HG job?

    seems a whole lot of guff to add to the price if you ask me!

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    A timing chain change is a good idea as it's all stripped and the old chain will probably have lost all the marks on it anyway.


    Get a compression test done at a local small garage, even if they can't do the HG job, they should be able to do a compression test. At least then you will know if the HG has gone or not.

    I wouldn't take it to VX for a CHG or even the compression test as they are way too expensive on labour and no better than a reputed local garage. Look at the 'good garage scheme' for your area (google search it) if you don't know a good place yourself.


    OR why don't you DIY and same £££ ??? Not that difficult really, and will be in the Haynes manual.

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