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    Smile Oh man! - what a difference!!

    I mentioned this in my MOT thread, but I thought I'd give it it's own thread as I can't believe how much of a difference it's made to the handling of the car. It may help anyone else with similar symptoms.

    For some time I'd felt that the handling of the car wasn't quite right. It felt 'rough' over bumpy roads and kinda banged over bumps etc. when it should have been smoother. Also, more recently the car felt like it was understeering quite badly. I'd go round a tight left hander for example, and find myself having to give it more turn as I'd started to drift towards the centre of ther road.

    Also, if I was giving it some stick on a winding road, especially one that didn't have a perfectly smooth surface (i.e. most roads! lol) the steering wheel would be jigging left and right continuously so I was partly wrestling with the damn thing. If I took a roundabout at speed I'd feel the front wheels scrabbling a bit.

    Basically, it didn't feel like I remembered it did when I first got the Irmscher kit fitted.

    It was looked at in the past by my dealer and they found a leaking rear shock - so they replaced both rears thinking that may be it solved. After driving it for a bit I realised that, in my eyes, it hadn't - but at least they'd spotted the leaking shock and I got both replaced.

    After talking to Mark (GSi3.2) and telling him my symptoms, he said the likely suspect was the ant-roll bar link rods and joint (drop links). So when the car went in today for it's new boost pressure sensor and MOT, I mentioned again about the handling and what I thought it could be. They said they'd look again. They did and found some play in them (not much they said) and replaced them.

    Well, there may not have been much play, but OMG what a difference it made!! Not long back from being out for a blast on a variety of road types and surfaces. No more jiggling of the steering wheel in my hand, no more 'rougness' over bumpy/rough roads, no understeer round corners and going round a roundabout at speed (I really pushed it) it just stuck like sh*t to a blanket - and that was with it pretty wet outside with heavy drizzle.

    This is how I remember it being before!! When something gradually deteriorates it takes a while before you realise how much it actually has deteriorated as you keep 'getting used' to it.

    If you read this Spikey, I'm pretty sure when you took my car for a spin at the Essex mini-meet, you were experiencing the understeer thing yourself from the way I saw you react going around corners?, as I recall ending up going around a corner probably wider than you were expecting? I didn't mention anything, and you were maybe too polite to say anything at the time!?

    The handling now is just like it was when I got the Irmscher kit fitted. With that kit, and the Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tyres, the grip is just phenomenal - even in the wet. It wasn't dangerous or anything as it was, just nowhere near as good as it should've been. So, Spikey, just imagine how it felt when you drove it - and significantly improve it!

    They didn't find anything wrong on the rear, but I'm convinced that replacing the same on the rear certainly won't do any harm. Not a big job and not expensive parts at all - so something I'll be doing soon.

    Very happy bunny now!

    So if anyone is having any similar sort of handling/ride issues to the above, you know what the likely suspects are!

    D

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    Glad you got it sorted D..

    Makes owning it like having a new toy all over again..


    How's the software BTW??

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    God yes, it's transformed the car back to how I remember it!!

    Regarding software, and new boost pressure sensor - time will tell I guess as it was only a very intermittent problem. Hopefully now solved.

    D

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    MIght have a job for mark lol, my front end is all over the place. May make a new thread. *sighs*

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    If you want a HOW-2 the i will oblidge next week when i change the springs and struts on Mrs GSi's vec..I was going to fit new links anyway as they've got to come off..



    Or is this a Billing ' kill-some-time' job??

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    How 2 would be fab if you're up for it.

    You've already got a client list for Billing. Me with my rears and Plasma with his fronts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan
    How 2 would be fab if you're up for it.
    silly question
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan
    You've already got a client list for Billing. Me with my rears and Plasma with his fronts!

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    no worries..

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    Those 'drop-links' as they're known are a VERY common cause of them type of symptoms, very simple piece of equipment but very important and if anybody owns a peugeot or renault, then may I suggest buying a small stock pile of these links, you'll need them
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    Duncan, glad your 100% happy with your handling again, nice one

    PS Vx sux for any reported handling problems

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    Nice one Duncan, think I said the handling felt 'softer' than i'd expected from the Irmscher kit, translate this to 'looser' and I think we're probably on the same wavelength. I would imagine that with a little 'play' in the setup it would take longer to turn in as the weight would shift more before you actually start turning.

    I'll have to have another test drive again soon then might be more impressed with the Irmy suspension now it's fixed

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