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    So do you think they did the right thing? He may have had coke on him but if he really didn't understand due to being mentally ill why did they do it. Heard on the radio that the court actually laughed at him.

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    It sounds like he was taken advantage of. However where were the family that are know whingeing when he was being put up to this? Personally I don't think this country has a right to interfere with other countries laws. I agree with their hard stance on drug smugglers, but I don't know enough about this guy to have an informed opinion. There are lots of people who gob off about the subject without knowing much about it, as with most prominent storiues in the media.

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    Exactly, so wish they'd stop it with the headlines (i have a pet hate about labels in the news )... but still think they did the right thing by there laws. there's plenty of other countries without death penalties you can try crack popstardom in with your unauthadoxed way of funding it lol...


    Oh and this China capitol punishment demonizing that's going on, i read that china kills more people then every other country!!

    yet it failed to mention that per capita its actually less then in America...
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    Its a bit like someone being excuted when innocent, if he really had no idea what he was doing.
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    Statistics can show anything mate. As for the bloke himself, it comes down to his 'mental illness'. I know someone with Bi-Polar disorder, and although there will be a million different versions of it, I don't see how it would make you do something like that. It also brings up the whole question of using mental illnesses as excuses - How on earth can anyone tell what's going on inside his brain?

    Like all things in life, it's never black and white and there is no right or wrong - simply opinions. Groups like Amnesty Int. etc HAVE to leap to the defence of the bloke, otherwise what's their point in existing at all? Same goes for the Climate Change/Global Warming protesters - if they didn't argue and complain at every little incident or event or statement concerning the subject, there would be no point in them existing...

    At the end of the day it doesn't effect me and my life, there's nothing I can do about it, so I just let it pass. Let others argue over it all till they're blue in the face, and he'll still be dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sig View Post
    Its a bit like someone being excuted when innocent, if he really had no idea what he was doing.
    But thats the easiest defense to be fair - insanity or diminished responsibilty is the biggest cop out in all countries laws, its what his layer will have pushed for, and now the media will be pushing that too... and IMO very few would be genuine - maybe his was but they evaluated him and stuck with there decision...

    I also think it is harder for any country to force there laws or punishments on non citizens and a lot of political pussy footing will have been done before the final say. unlike if it was some chinese farmer they where killing... would be the same over here the otherway round, imagine us giving some french guy the death penalty?!?

    Still feel sorry for the guys family like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemarksmith View Post
    But thats the easiest defense to be fair - insanity or diminished responsibilty is the biggest cop out in all countries laws, its what his layer will have pushed for, and now the media will be pushing that too... and IMO very few would be genuine - maybe his was but they evaluated him and stuck with there decision...

    I also think it is harder for any country to force there laws or punishments on non citizens and a lot of political pussy footing will have been done before the final say. unlike if it was some chinese farmer they where killing... would be the same over here the otherway round, imagine us giving some french guy the death penalty?!?

    Still feel sorry for the guys family like...
    I know, but they did have a clinical Phsycologist agree with him and the family that he was nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sig View Post
    I know, but they did have a clinical Phsycologist agree with him and the family that he was nuts.
    Which begs the question, why was he in Amsterdam (or wherever it was...) flying to China alone...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penfold101 View Post
    Which begs the question, why was he in Amsterdam (or wherever it was...) flying to China alone...?
    That is a very good point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sig View Post
    I know, but they did have a clinical Phsycologist agree with him and the family that he was nuts.
    But how many disagreed? that wont get reported... and we only hear from the press the "real" story.... but its a bit like any cases, how many are unanimous. i'm sure they'll have gone with the majority evaluations on him...

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