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    Default Large Roundabout Etiquette

    There are lots of examples of people doing silly manouvres on the roads, mostly because they are oblivious of other vehicles around them, but this is one that people seem to do intentionally, as if it's a legitimate tactic. It isn't, and it's pretty annoying and dangerous, what's everyone else's opinions on it?

    Imagine a large roundabout, with several exits, each to a dual carriageway. A car on the roundabout, perhaps on the outside lane or maybe moving into that lane from the inside lane, is passing one exit/entrance on the roundabout and is intending to leave the roundabout at the next exit. I've labelled this car as "X" on the picture below.

    A vehicle is approaching this same roundabout from the exit/approach that car X is passing, I've labelled this as "Y". Y is supposed to give way to vehicles on the roundabout approaching from the right, (in the UK, anyway). Instead of stopping and letting X pass, Y decides to enter the roundabout straight away - intentionally - because he thinks X can move across to the right hand lane and still exit the roundabout.

    So in my diagram below, car X was on the course shown by the red broken line, instead he has to swerve to the right, as shown by the blue line.

    Yes, there are 2 lanes exiting the roundabout at each junction, but if car X is in the left lane (as he's supposed to be, as he was taught to do when he learnt to drive), then vehicle Y has to stop and give way. Is it not entirely wrong that Y pulls out - wrong because if X doesn't swerve or rapidly alter course, there will be a collision. So, IF someone chooses to do a manouvre that will cause a collision unless someone else takes avoiding action, isn't that 100% wrong? And yet many people do this, almost as if they no longer have to give way to traffic approaching from the right on a roundabout, as if they magically have equal priority to the cars coming from the right.



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    I know what you mean and it is dangerous and the give way sign and markings are there for a reason......


    And I have even thought about not doing serious evasive actions at lower speeds to avoid someone . . . .

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    A "give way" line is exactly that - the situation you describe is no different to those who force vehicles in lane 1 to move out at a motorway merge point.

    It's always a requirement for the driver behind the give way to do so.

    Forcing someone into a different lane is crazy - the "forcer" can rarely see what's coming up on the outside of the other vehicle.

    However, every driver has to anticipate the stupid actions of other drivers!

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    its always wrong if what you are doing is causing the other to change speed or direction, soetimes i feel like hitting them then think if only i had a banger

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    I've seen it happen a few times, in extreme cases I just STOP
    Equally, if a vehicle is INDICATING off the roundabout then they have every right to move from the far right of the lane on the rounabout over to the left
    The vehicle entering MUST give way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    I know what you mean and it is dangerous and the give way sign and markings are there for a reason......


    And I have even thought about not doing serious evasive actions at lower speeds to avoid someone . . . .
    I know exactly what you mean, but I always talk myself out of it.

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    Unless the junction has a lane marked to allow then to ignore the island, then they should not move. Like...... The island on the Dudley road (where the cinema is) this has a lane marked out for just this purpose.

    Also how about the blind "idiots" who take the racing line across an island when your on the outside!!!
    I get this almost every single day on my way home from work, funnily enough the trucks manage to get around without squashing me, so why can't fred in his VW Polo?

    Then I guess there's the Bromsgrove M42 island/junction, where nobody ever seems to get into the correct (far left) lane to go down the M42 slip road!! The middle and right hand lanes are marked A38s, not M42!!

    I think that traffic island lane discipline needs a lot more focus when it comes to learning to drive.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birchy63 View Post
    Also how about the blind "idiots" who take the racing line across an island when your on the outside!!!
    I get this almost every single day on my way home from work, funnily enough the trucks manage to get around without squashing me, so why can't fred in his VW Polo?
    I love when this happens
    Flash, flash, flash, then you see the person in front of you panic
    Why bother, you've already gone left, right, left!
    Saying that I reported a taxi a few months ago and I noticed a few days later he had actually managed to hit someone by the exact same action
    I then received a letter from the local authority advising that the licence had been revoked

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    I tend to lean on the horn, which results in lots of middle finger and them chasing me all the way to the next island...... Why can't people accept they were in the wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birchy63 View Post

    Then I guess there's the Bromsgrove M42 island/junction, where nobody ever seems to get into the correct (far left) lane to go down the M42 slip road!! The middle and right hand lanes are marked A38s, not M42!!
    I use that island regular an i can agree with ya there mate

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