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    After spending around 1300 quid fixing the dreaded water in the oil problem with my 2.2 dti's auto box, the car has been running fine. The garage also converted it to make sure that the problem doesnt occur again.

    However I did notice it tended to stick in 1st or second gear for a bit to long, but thought that was the nature of the car. Anyway near the 1 year mark since the problem was fixed I noticed that it was beginning to stay in 1 and 2 for longer and longer, espcially when first starting up.

    Anyway took it back to the garage and the computer they had could find no faults other than the mass airflow meter was knackered. So I had that changed it it started to behanve better.

    However everytime it is first started, i.e when going to work in the morning, it just struggles along stuck in first or second gear. Its getting really annoying, going 15 miles up the hill near my house towards work with fuming drivers behind.....

    p.s once warm she runs spot on.

    Any advice please?

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    1. Change gearbox oil, 2 times. Every time you will change ~ 2.8-3 liters. That's the reason you have to change it at least 2 times, minimum 80-100 miles between the changes.

    2. Warm the car a little longer before driving. 4-5 minutes with the engine running will do good things. Gearbox in D, foot on the brake.

    That's all I can think of for now.

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    Try resetting the ECU again, and then drive like your grandad for a few days.

    Because I think the A33 Auto box is of the 'adaptive' type?

    It may be that your driving style (fast getaways?) causes the auto box to hang on to the lower gears for longer than necessary. This is something that 'adaptive' gearboxes do over a period of time. They can be a real pain in the butt, particularly if people driving the car have different driving habits. Ask any auto driving instructor about problems with 'driveabilty' when they drive the car! LOL

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    That's "warm-up" mode. Mine is a bit annoying too, but nothing like yours!
    As suggested, reset the ECU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel dog View Post
    Try resetting the ECU again, and then drive like your grandad for a few days.

    Because I think the A33 Auto box is of the 'adaptive' type?

    It may be that your driving style (fast getaways?) causes the auto box to hang on to the lower gears for longer than necessary. This is something that 'adaptive' gearboxes do over a period of time. They can be a real pain in the butt, particularly if people driving the car have different driving habits. Ask any auto driving instructor about problems with 'driveabilty' when they drive the car! LOL

    Hmmm oddly enough just after the box was fixed, my wife suddenly had the urge of starting her driving lessons again, and I have to say that probably most of the first 100 or so miles after being fixed were done by her ( a learner at that stage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celes View Post
    That's "warm-up" mode. Mine is a bit annoying too, but nothing like yours!
    As suggested, reset the ECU.

    Think I will try this tonight. P.s is it a simple case of removing the battery for a while to reset the ecu?

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    I'm just curious, what did they do to make sure that the problem doesnt occur again?
    Fit an external oil-cooler or just a new radiator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirik View Post
    I'm just curious, what did they do to make sure that the problem doesnt occur again?
    Fit an external oil-cooler or just a new radiator?
    Basically the gearbox oil was cooled by going through the radiator, which in time would start to leak etc......

    The solution is an external oil cooler, so therefore bypassing the cars radiator. Something Vaux should have done to begin with. Cost me abou 1300 quid. Far cheaper than the dealers quite of a new box for 3000 something....

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    Ok, i have been thinking to do the same with mine, but i will do it before it fails!
    That was cheap for the box, here in Norway i have heard rumors that the box is more like 6000+
    It hapend with my granddad's 2.2i, he had to replace the box, luckily the insurance covered it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirik View Post
    Ok, i have been thinking to do the same with mine, but i will do it before it fails!
    That was cheap for the box, here in Norway i have heard rumors that the box is more like 6000+
    It hapend with my granddad's 2.2i, he had to replace the box, luckily the insurance covered it!
    Very good idea. I would advise all owners do this before its too late.

    p.s and sooner or later the damn thing will leak!

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