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    Trim : 9-3 Vert

    Engine : 2.0

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    Default Anyone here own a civic?

    Looks like a may be selling the Vec and getting a civic Type S GT 2.2 CTDI.

    Not something I really want to do, but the deal being offered makes it a no brainer really given the current financial climate.

    So just wondered if anyone here had one? If so what have you done to it?

    I did say it was staying standard, but I cant see that happening.

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    What year is it? (I dont have one just curious)

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_zigmond View Post
    Looks like a may be selling the Vec and getting a civic Type S GT 2.2 CTDI.

    Not something I really want to do, but the deal being offered makes it a no brainer really given the current financial climate.

    So just wondered if anyone here had one? If so what have you done to it?
    Lulz, spending a fortune on a new car really is a no brainer in the current financial climate

    The current civic, isn't a bad car, however if you thought the Vec was bad with how reliant it is on the ECU/canbus, you'll have a shock coming with the Honda. The car is literally one big computer, nothing operates without going through the canbus.

    In addition and worth remembering:

    Honda provide a 3 year standard warranty, but their parts suppliers give Honda a 5+ year warranty.
    This means that when you need repairs outside your warranty, Honda charge you for the parts and labour, they then send the parts to the supplier and the supplier pays the same cost as you paid (parts + labour), Honda make profit on the parts x 2 and labour charges x 2.

    Parts aren't cheap at all either, where Honda pay a supplier £30 for a simple window switch pack, they charge over £190 for that as a replacement part.

    Only PC worlds gold plated (what kind of idiot falls for that?) HDMI leads (Buy at £4, sell at £95) can beat that for profit margin

    So.... It doesn't take a genious to see that it benifits Honda massively to have their cars failing smack bang inbetween your warranty and the suppliers.

    Honda has been shafting it's supplier base like this for years.
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    Its an 08 plate (just over 18 months old) As mentioned its a price I cant refuse (basically was my Dads car and hes bored). Will probably look at an extended warranty in that case when the 3 years are up, but saying that my Vec is a V6 CDTI so nothing is going to cost as much as that to fix.

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    mother has a new shape 06 plate lovely to drive, really comfy and nippy enough for a 1.8

    the only thing that i dont like is the poor visibility with the back window and huge A and C pillars

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    Very reilable cars, look like blackpool inside with all the lights, do i like them YES
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    Any pics ??

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    my mate has one, Honda are pricey for parts as mentioned, and that diesel takes about 8 litres of oil! per change! local Honda dealer in Cardiff is pants so hope your local one is better!
    He has gone off it since he bought it, wishes he never spent all that cash on it. I must admit I liked the shape when they first came out, but gone off it myself.

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    they are nice cars to drive,as far as i know honda do not use canbus,just good old electronics from the past,the biggest problem with the civic is they are a pain in the as* to reverse in the wet as they have no rear wiper,but how many 2.2 diesels cost £120 a year to tax? i have driven loads for short dstances but the ones i have driven are brand new (less than 4 miles) honda are very strict with their engine testing so are generaly very reliable.and tey do look after their customers even if the car is out of warranty,like vauxhall you mus use a long life oil.

    oh and i work for honda of the uk manufacturing so i may have worked on the car you are looking at,even driven it

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    I worked in a senior technical role for the company that supplies their steering column switch gear, window switch gear and central locking/AT system.... They do use a canbus, although in typical Japanese fashion a rather over complicated one.
    The Civic/CRV/Acura/etc has a querk with the window switch gear where diagnosing a faulty switch means replacing the whole lot as they all share a data line meaning that when the OS rear breaks, it also breaks the master so normal fault finding techniques can't be applied... Each window switch contains a programmable CPU and the "anti pinch" is controlled by the individual switch, by counting pulses from an encoder or hall sensor mounted inside the window motor, this feature plays up if some numpty programs it wrong during assembly into the car and the window will rise to the top and then wind itself 1/4 of the way down (making it impossible to close the window), requiring a battery disconnect or complex reprogramming procedure which HUM didn't have time to do

    Im extremely glad not to be working with those things anymore! I spent 3 days reading the memory on the "faulty" ones to produce a technical report for Honda proving that their problems were being caused during assembly at their plant.
    The previous Civic however used a much simpler system, but suffered from over current if the end user held the switch too long (kids!!), resulting in severe melting/burning of the switch and harness. The reason I suspect for using the complex CPU based switches was to prevent the user being able to damage it this way.

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