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    Hi mates,
    I have a problem and need your help!
    I have a Signum `03 with CDR 2005 and GID till the moment. Today I bought a CID with the hope that the upgrade will be only a plug and play issue. I mounted the CID and it works BUT I can not control it. I mean that by pressing the buttons ot the wiper stalk notihing happens, and I could only see Opel logo, temp, date, time and climate control settings. I decided that it has to be tech2`ed and immediately visited my dealer and they tried to configure the CID but with no result. It was explained to me that the CID controls signal from the wiper stalk comes from the CIM through the CD and then goes to CID.
    Obviosly with the GID this signal comes directly from the CIM to the GID.

    As I understood I have to buy another CD that could make the connection to the CID and then i will be able to browse CID menus via the wiper stalk buttons, or direcly via the CD. Could someone tell me what model CD to search for, or is there easier way for solving the problem.

    Thanks in advance!

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    One more question, is it possible the CID to be "un-paired" and how can I understand that?

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    Im sure someone with more knowledge will be along shortly, but I think you will need a ncdc2013 or ncdc2015. Although I think KenP may have got it working with his CCR2006

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    As far as i know its not compatible CID's for half canbus cars require a NCDC radio to work correctly no amount of tech2 will allow you to control it via the wiper stalk because on these CID's the control signals are produced via the HU not wiperstalk.
    So you are wasting your time and your money best bet would be to buy a NCDC radio and retrofit.

    Ps....Whats the part number and index code for the CID ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    As far as i know its not compatible CID's for half canbus cars require a NCDC radio to work correctly no amount of tech2 will allow you to control it via the wiper stalk because on these CID's the control signals are produced via the HU not wiperstalk.
    So you are wasting your time and your money best bet would be to buy a NCDC radio and retrofit.

    Ps....Whats the part number and index code for the CID ?
    I have to see the part number and the index code is YF

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    Its a NCDC2013 or 15 CID screen you will need to buy a NCDC radio and alter your wiring to get it to work,Cost for a NCDC radio will be about £150 - £200 on ebay then you will have to find a RGB plug and sot lead then follow the instructions that myself and kenp have put up on forums (kenp is doing a how-to)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    ....buy a NCDC radio and alter your wiring to get it to work....
    Well, it seems I have to search for a NCDC, but could you explain more about the alter, what're the differences in the installation, is there any scheme or something?

    Ps. If I knew it is so complicated woudn't buy this CID

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    The main thing is wiring you will have to add wires between the radio and screen to complete the communication bridge,off the top of my head its around 6 or so wires so these will have to be added to the radio plug and then wired to the 32 pin plug.
    Then you will have to add wires for the RGB plug this is a small 12 pin plug that sends the navi signal to the CID.
    Then once you have all the wiring complete you will need to buy a GPS aerial these can be bought on ebay for less than £10


    Have a look at this post HERE

    This will explain a few things for you its a mod well worth doing ive done it and Kenp is in the process of doing it

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    ohhh yes im in the middel of doing it but got a non matching pair.. so mine are locked but yes and the how2 is ready to be submitted with a bit extra.. hoping the 7 page thread will be added under the discussion thread

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    You will NOT be able to use it unless with the buttons on steeringwheel.. and probaly only with NCDC. for sure not with the CDR2005 and CCR 2006

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