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    Default Pre-face lift vs Face lift performance figures

    Hi all.
    Im new to the site and looking to buy a Vectra SRI CDTI 150 face lift model but have noticed the figures are less than the pre-face lift model.
    Power and torque is the same but 0-60 is a second less?
    Anyone know why this is?
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    I thought everone knew pre-facelifts are faster!

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    It cos during the period of time between the pre-facelift and the facelift coming out the test driver put on a lil bit of weight.

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    Must be in the ECU, as they "feel" a bit held back IMO (the f/l).

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1983 View Post
    I thought everone knew pre-facelifts are faster!
    lol

    Apart from the jokers on here it is a serious question that obviously not many have the info about!
    I have also read it could be to do with the DPF that the pre-face lift models dont have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by larrysSRI View Post
    lol

    Apart from the jokers on here it is a serious question that obviously not many have the info about!
    I have also read it could be to do with the DPF that the pre-face lift models dont have?
    Only Estate and Auto f/l have DPF's.

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    Why would they only be in estates and autos?
    If its ecu change that causes the lower performance figures would a remap sort it out.
    I will be re-mapping the car i eventually buy anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larrysSRI View Post
    Why would they only be in estates and autos?
    If its ecu change that causes the lower performance figures would a remap sort it out.
    I will be re-mapping the car i eventually buy anyway.
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    Paul
    If it is ECU mappings that cause it then yes it would, as they would both remap to the same.

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    it will all be down to euro emissions and the manufacturers trying to meet and surpass these to entice lease companies into taking them
    the face lifts produce .05g/km less than the preface lifts and can do 2.0 mpg better on the fuel - this all means the car will inevitably be slower - but a remap should resolve most of these issues

    and on a lighter note - the preface lists are lower insurance groups as well ?

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    Well i have just found a 54 plate sri cdti 150 for under £5000 with 59,000 miles on it so watch this space.
    Got £5800 to spend so will be re-mapping it asap
    Any advice on mapping etc will be appreciated and any other topics i need to know before becoming an owner!

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