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    hi in the morning after starting my 2.0 dti vectra c 75k miles fsh, there is a short burst of white smoke, it quickley dissappears! and car runs fine, the same happens when i finnish work (5pm) but theres a lesser amount of white smoke and the car still runs fine. if i drive the car for a while and switch it off and say go shopping on my return i will not get the white smoke, ive had other diesels in the past that didnt do this, but is this just a trait of vauxhall 2.0 dti's or something worse, nb i think it has the questionable bosch vp44 fuel pump, any ideas anyone?

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    This suggests water is passing the liners in the cylinder head
    I suggest you monitor the coolant level, if you need to start topping it up then the cylinder head has failed, and from memory you don't get any warning that it has failed

    Also, try this
    Get the engine warm, then switch off
    Once the radiator fan has switched off, stand at the nearside and listen for any water gurgling noises
    If there are none, then excellent
    However, if you can hear any then again there is air in the system and suggests the cylinder head is compromised
    If you catch it early enough a pressure test and reskim is all that is required

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    This suggests water is passing the liners in the cylinder head
    I suggest you monitor the coolant level, if you need to start topping it up then the cylinder head has failed, and from memory you don't get any warning that it has failed

    Also, try this
    Get the engine warm, then switch off
    Once the radiator fan has switched off, stand at the nearside and listen for any water gurgling noises
    If there are none, then excellent
    However, if you can hear any then again there is air in the system and suggests the cylinder head is compromised
    If you catch it early enough a pressure test and reskim is all that is required
    Cheers m8' i will give the test ago, although wouldn't my radiator hoses be hard to the touch/squeeze if the head gasket was pressurizing the cooling system?

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    yeah, and it would be gurgling back up into the header tank something chronic.

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    Our C 2.0DTi (90k) and my B 2.2DTi (180k) used to do this. Had both cars for over 25k and there has never been a coolant warning light....well except for the C, because it had a leak lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsav View Post
    yeah, and it would be gurgling back up into the header tank something chronic
    If you catch it early enough it can be just a few small bubbles AND very quiet

    I caught it in my Vectra B and the dealership wasn't convinced but they did a pressure test which came back as acceptable, so I kept my eye on it for the next few weeks, and then it started to eat water
    However it passed yet another pressure test, but only just and the warranty agreed to investigate (leaving me without my car for six days)

    Unlike my Rover which had a permanent external cooling leak, due to bad engine design
    Several months after the warranrty expired a new seal design was available, and a few months later the cylinder head completely failed without warning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    If you catch it early enough it can be just a few small bubbles AND very quiet

    I caught it in my Vectra B and the dealership wasn't convinced but they did a pressure test which came back as acceptable, so I kept my eye on it for the next few weeks, and then it started to eat water
    However it passed yet another pressure test, but only just and the warranty agreed to investigate (leaving me without my car for six days)

    Unlike my Rover which had a permanent external cooling leak, due to bad engine design
    Several months after the warranrty expired a new seal design was available, and a few months later the cylinder head completely failed without warning!
    tried m8's test, no sign of gurgling/bubbling, no hard/pressurised coolant pipes, removed header tank cap no signs off excessive pressure ( not reccomended but i put my hand where the cap goes) there's no 'mayo' around the oil filler and no contamination in the header tank, ive just put some smoke treatment in the diesel tank but i think its for dark smoke and emmissions, hopefully its just condensation in the exhaust, but i'll just have to suck it a see, but if anyones got an opinion or idea in the meanwhile let me know,

    thanks guys

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    Hi Mike mines still the same i get a grey/white smoke on start up then some black smoke,i'm not losing any water or using any oil so ive just left it, Hasn't caused a problem so far so no need to start messing around with it.

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    It could also be because its been a bit chilly in the mornings - well it has here - and is perfectly normal. A bit like breathing out in the cold and seeing your own breath.
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    cheers guys, will keep my eyes peeled

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