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    I have a 2.2 DTi, and just changed my suspension. I think the front shock absorbers are too soft, even if they should fit my car. I'm thinking of asking my dealer to exchange to shocks designed for a heavier Vectra.

    So, what about the V6 petrol? Or maybe the 3 litre diesel? Anyone done this with success?

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    3litre Diesel is heaviest, but why not get some bilsteins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_zigmond View Post
    3litre Diesel is heaviest, but why not get some bilsteins?
    Thanks. Well, now I've just bought and installed some Lesjöfors coilsprings and KYB absorbers, and paid some ££ for this. Now, I made a complain to the dealer, since the rear of the car is stiff, thight and perfect for the estate, but the front is to soft, bouncing in bottom of the absorbers when passing speedtraps, almost the same way it did with the original suspension (60.000miles old).
    My dealer agree with my complaint, and now we have to find a solution. I will suggest to get absorbers for a heavier Vectra, i don't see other solutions, since I'm pretty stuck with what my dealer sells, and both KYB and Lesjöfors mainly makes OEM replacements, at least this is what I can get here.. I have been very happy with these brands on all the car's I've done the same job on, so...

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    Hmm, anyone know the difference in suspension in facelift and pre-facelift?

    I see at all applicationlists for Opel, I have to choose from VIN before or after 48045597. If the facelift is stiffer/thighter, could it maybe be a solution to select the facelift shockabsorbers? I've got a pre face, with VIN starting at 41..

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    Apologies i thought you were using VX shocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_zigmond View Post
    Apologies i thought you were using VX shocks
    Don't apologise, my fault I didn't write what and why

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    The shocks are the same regardless of the weight of the car, its only the spring rates that change to cope with the heavier car. There are shortened shock on the SRI and GSI models, perhaps you want thse? Bilstein do a number of ranges too B4 (standard) B6 (-30mm drop) B8 (> -30mm??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marly View Post
    The shocks are the same regardless of the weight of the car, its only the spring rates that change to cope with the heavier car. There are shortened shock on the SRI and GSI models, perhaps you want thse? Bilstein do a number of ranges too B4 (standard) B6 (-30mm drop) B8 (> -30mm??)
    Huh? Are you 100% on this? Then I don't understand why KYB makes alot of different shockabsorbers for the front of the Vectra, only a few engine-sizes share the same? Well, this is only for VIN before 48045597. After this VIN it is actually the same absorber on all models.... Pew, I don't get this

    So I should concentrate on the springs then? OK...

    No, I can probably not use lower springs/shocks. I would love to have it (it looks nice, and Ill guess performance is good also), but where I live this is not an option. The Vectra is already quite low as it is. The road quality here in Norway is partly extremely uneven and rough, and in wintertime we sometimes get some snow, the Vectra would act as a snowplough

    Anyway, I have just changed both springs and shocks, and will stick with the brands Ive already got. Just have to figure out what went wrong with the stiff rear and soft front.

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    I think I am right, the spring sets the stiffness and the shock absorber takes care of the damping after the spring is compressed. Perhaps one of the more technically minded would be along in a bit if Im wrong!

    I understand you cant go lower, so if the front was too soft then you could opt for those rated for a heavier car, like the 3.0 CDTi. The spring rates for the 3.0 will be the highest as the engine is the heaviest in the range. This: http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/vauxhall.htm shows the 2.2DTi 5Dr as 1468kg and the 3.0 CDTi 5Dr as 1570kg. They dont have the estate in 2.2Dti form but the differential must be similar. I guess most of this 100Kg will be over the front axle, hence the increased spring rate.

    Having just thought about it I guess different shocks may also firm up the suspension as they will also damp quick compressions of the suspension, thereby smoothing the ride out.

    We need an automotive engineer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marly View Post
    We need an automotive engineer!
    Definately! Or, some pints?! Amazing how much a few pints helps in solving problems like this
    I found the wheight for my in the list you linked to.

    Hmm, I recall something in the car's handbook about how to figure out the excact wheight. <going out to the car to check>.
    Have just sent a email to the producer of the springs, suggesting your suggestion to get the 3.0 CDTi springs. I don't want the car to be either lower or higher, just to be a better match to the rear.
    It's pretty "funny" to drive my car now. Really stiff'n'thight in rear, and soft in front. Of course it is a huge upgrade from the original suspension, 62.000 miles old, but not as "perfect" as I'm used to get from these producers of suspension.

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