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    Going to be doing my oil and filter over the weekend.Car is at 65k miles and is a 2.2 Direct Sri. After reading a tread on this site about flushing, I'm not going to bother (personal decision) but was wondering if adding anything to a fully synthetic oil is a worthwhile exercise or just a waste of time. I mean along the lines of slick50 etc.

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    VX recomend that you DO NOT use any additives in the oil. I would suppose if you use a good grade oil to the VX spec" you don,t really need any.

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    I've been a firm advocate of ZX1 for a good few years now. Although not strictly an oil additive, I use it in the engine, gearbox and coolant.
    I could sit here and list lots of nice things I believe it does, but that's best left down to the opinion of the person using it.
    All I'll say is since I got the 3.2 GSi, I spent a month or so getting used to it then started doing things to it. Once the ZX1 went in, the expected changes were right there and I remain a happy bunny

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    Appreciate the comments

    Sounds similar, but perhaps a bit more 'professional' compared to Slick 50.Just curious, how is it added to the gearbox? Do I need to drain and replace the gearbox oil or can it just be added. If so, where and how do I do this? With my car at 65k,anything that can improve the life of certain things is a 'bargain' at £17.99 IMO

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    Depending on which gearbox you have, the quantity added and filler hole are different.
    On my 3.2 GSi I have the F35 gearbox I believe, so all I needed to add was 80ml - I know I should have gone through the whole level checking thing first, but I was quite happy to risk just adding 80ml given that once it gets above 60c the ZX1 I've added will be bonded to the surface of the metal, not floating around with the rest of the oil.

    Your 2.2 should have an F23 I think, so your filler plug should be on top of the gearbox casing near what looks like an angled pipe union. The plug is the screw in type with a socket in the top.

    I used a 20ml syringe to squirt in the required measured amounts - local chemist helped out there (no needle required, just the syringe).

    Hope that helps.

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    you shouldnt need to add anything, if you are using the correct type & grade of oil. All oil has additives which degrade over time, so the best thing you can do is chenge it regularly with a quality oil.

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    Surely if these additives offer the things they claim motor manafactuers would be adding them , or dealers selling them ?

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    Have a read through the blurb about each product - some do claim to change the properties of the oil, others don't.
    In the case of the ZX1 I choose to use, it's NOT an oil additive - it merely uses the fluid to get to the hot metal surfaces - the oil stays the same. Likewise I also add it to the coolant and the fuel. It doesn't alter either of them.
    The part I go for is quite simply that engine oil is only good when it's in the engine and coating metal-to-metal surfaces. When you start the engine, it can take a while for that oil to get to all of those surfaces - the ZX1 is already there, bonded to the surface of the metal.
    The oil doesn't do a lot for the water pump - a small amount of ZX1 in the coolant and with little luck the water pump might last a little longer. A few ml in the fuel tank and they say it'll help protect the upper cylinder (where that oil better not be getting).

    I am in no way connected with the producers of the product, but I've been using it in a 3.0 12v Senator, a 3.0 24v Senator, a 3.0 V6 Omega and now in my 3.2 V6 Vectra and I've never had a problem in any of them.

    I can only assume that vehicle manufacturers don't add them due to not wanting to pay for licencing agreements, and franchised dealers being limited to what they can sell by the terms of their franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyandy-UK View Post
    Have a read through the blurb about each product - some do claim to change the properties of the oil, others don't.
    In the case of the ZX1 I choose to use, it's NOT an oil additive - it merely uses the fluid to get to the hot metal surfaces - the oil stays the same. Likewise I also add it to the coolant and the fuel. It doesn't alter either of them.
    The part I go for is quite simply that engine oil is only good when it's in the engine and coating metal-to-metal surfaces. When you start the engine, it can take a while for that oil to get to all of those surfaces - the ZX1 is already there, bonded to the surface of the metal.
    The oil doesn't do a lot for the water pump - a small amount of ZX1 in the coolant and with little luck the water pump might last a little longer. A few ml in the fuel tank and they say it'll help protect the upper cylinder (where that oil better not be getting).

    I am in no way connected with the producers of the product, but I've been using it in a 3.0 12v Senator, a 3.0 24v Senator, a 3.0 V6 Omega and now in my 3.2 V6 Vectra and I've never had a problem in any of them.

    I can only assume that vehicle manufacturers don't add them due to not wanting to pay for licencing agreements, and franchised dealers being limited to what they can sell by the terms of their franchise.
    what is ZX1? I am not sure that I would want to add it to my coolant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterVV View Post
    what is ZX1? I am not sure that I would want to add it to my coolant?
    Google it and have a read of the Team ZX1 website

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