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    Ok my horn is bust (Dunno how it happend by the looks of it its got moisture on it as its coverd in rust) and obviously i need one to pass my MOT. but is there a requirement for it to be a specific one as i would like to put Nautilus Horn (single tone horn) on it as i had one on my old car and it worked a treat. i was just wondering if there was any MOT requirement for an electromagnetic horn.or is there any legal requirment to have one. or even an illigal sanction against airhorns.


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    Info: Pre 1906 vehiclesVehicles certified by the London Science Museum as being designed before 1 January 1905 and constructed before 31 December 1905 can have a gong, bell or siren audible warning.

    Inspection: Operate the horn control and note the volume and character of the sound emmited.

    Reject if:

    a. the horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver

    Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure.

    b. the horn does not function

    c. the sound emmited by the horn is not loud enough to be heard by another roaduser

    d. a gong, bell, siren or two or more tone horn fitted

    Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes. A vehicle is allowed to be fitted with a bell, gong or siren, but not two-tone, only as part of an anti-theft device.

    e. for a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, a sound emmited by the horn is- not a constant note- not continuous or uniform- harsh or grating

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    ah ta. so it seems if its set up propperly and its no more than two tones it should be ok for an MOT. anybody know about the legal bit of it? eg noise output and so on

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    Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986

    Regulation 99a (amended)

    Subsection 3


    (3) The audible motor vehicle alarm of a motor vehicle to which this
    regulation applies—
    (a) may not at any time emit a noise exceeding 55 decibels,
    (b) may not emit a noise for a continuous period of more than
    ninety seconds,
    (c) may not emit a noise for more than ninety seconds in response
    to a single event initiating the emitting of a noise, and
    (d) shall be maintained in good working order so as to comply with
    the requirements of sub-paragraphs (a) to (c).




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    at the end of the day you can have what you like.

    Air horns, electromagnetic ones, whatever you want are all legal as long as they fit into the decibel rating.

    Also a single tone is not true. You can have as many tones as you like. They just all have to sound at the same time. (no tunes etc)

    That's all you have to follow.
    Rubbin'z racing Harry!


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    Have you tried sanding down the mounting? Not too sure on the vec but other cars I've had in the past just earthed through the mounting.

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    here is the page from the mot testers manual http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_170.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyandy-UK View Post
    Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986

    Regulation 99a (amended)

    Subsection 3


    (3) The audible motor vehicle alarm of a motor vehicle to which this
    regulation applies—
    (a) may not at any time emit a noise exceeding 55 decibels,
    (b) may not emit a noise for a continuous period of more than
    ninety seconds,
    (c) may not emit a noise for more than ninety seconds in response
    to a single event initiating the emitting of a noise, and
    (d) shall be maintained in good working order so as to comply with
    the requirements of sub-paragraphs (a) to (c).




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    This is for the security alarm, not the horn. A bit pedantic is the sound level 55 dB alone means nothing at all - totally pointless with out a distance and media (OK we can assume air), but need a distance.
    55 dB at 1 metre would also be 49dB at 2m, and 43 dB at 4m distance.

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    Stick some of THESE on it!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    This is for the security alarm, not the horn. A bit pedantic is the sound level 55 dB alone means nothing at all - totally pointless with out a distance and media (OK we can assume air), but need a distance.
    55 dB at 1 metre would also be 49dB at 2m, and 43 dB at 4m distance.

    Ok... RV(C&U)1986 r37 seems to have been amended to death,so how about this one... :

    Road Vehicles (Approval Regulations) 2009 UK Statutory Instrument No717 Schedule 5 Part 2 Section 1

    Requirement 7. Audible Warning : The vehicle must be fitted with an audible warning device which when operated emits a continuous uniform sound capable of giving audible warning of the approach or position of the vehicle to which it is fitted.

    Definition : For the purposes of this item an “audible warning device” does not include a bell, gong or siren.

    Exemptions : None.



    Looks like you could get away with anything really as long as no-one could call it unsafe or unreasonably loud.

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