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    Default peugeot "power kits"- warning

    just recieved a very intersting email from Peugeot regarding power kits (diesel tuning boxes) being fitted to their vehicles -
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    We have been alerted in Germany by several cases of melted pistons on the 2.2 litre diesel engine.
    The technical inspections carried out on two of these incidents have concluded that the most likely cause was the fitting of a power
    kit. One of the units analysed misled the ECU input parameters resulting in an injection rail pressure several hundred bars higher
    than it should have been."

    they are now advising all dealers to check all vehicles with running faults
    and report any case of suspected or fitted kits to contact them immediatley as warranties would be invalidated - just thought i would make you aware as most manufacturers follow suit very quickly regarding such matters

    for your information



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    Any excuse to not pay out.....

    To be honest, I would imagine most people with tuning boxes to remove them before going to their respective dealer for any work to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_BlackSRi View Post
    Any excuse to not pay out.....

    To be honest, I would imagine most people with tuning boxes to remove them before going to their respective dealer for any work to be done.
    you would hope so - but forewarned it forearmed

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    Damn right, good find.

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    This is hardly news, though.

    Melted pistons is the final limit for over fuelling in diesel cars and is extreme. If the rail pressure is set to 1600 bar, then a couple of hundred above is actually only 12.5% increase, and probably within the tested max pressure. Unfortunately, these sorts of data are spread around and a lot of people are mislead by it into thinking that 200 bar increase is a huge increase - it actually isn't.

    Melted pistons is a bit terminal though.

    Vauxhall have said the same about the 3.0 CDTi.



    In all fairness, why should people fit boxes, and take the engine, driveline, fuel system etc well out of it normal design and operating limts and then expect the car manufacturer to pick up the cost if it all goes bang?

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    Ermm...so, exactly what has Peugeot got to do with Vauxhall?

    The Pug 2.2 isn't the world's best engine either - the newer version in the Freelander/New Mondeo etc is much better than the older one which tended to eat pistons anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _ZS_ View Post
    Ermm...so, exactly what has Peugeot got to do with Vauxhall?

    The Pug 2.2 isn't the world's best engine either - the newer version in the Freelander/New Mondeo etc is much better than the older one which tended to eat pistons anyway.
    So no-one on here will have a Peugeot in their household as well as a Vectra..??

    Not the best..? CDTi 150 anyone

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    Yeah, the Z19DTH is a real lemon. I got rid of mine quick-smart at 48k when it started playing up. Screw that for a game of fairies.

    Had a gander at my neighbour's new Alfa 159 JTDm. Same basic lump, but the EGR and inlet manifolds are quite different, as is the turbo.

    Tuning boxes have always had a "if it breaks take it off before you go near the dealer" disclaimer, and there's been various people warning about the problem associated with them for years.

    Pug's warning is a bit limp though - 100BAR is nothing to a commonrail injection system as Ste said in his post. That's probably within tolerances of reactions between the commonrail pressure regulator and the fuel pump's output at high revs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _ZS_ View Post
    Ermm...so, exactly what has Peugeot got to do with Vauxhall?

    The Pug 2.2 isn't the world's best engine either - the newer version in the Freelander/New Mondeo etc is much better than the older one which tended to eat pistons anyway.
    they are now advising all dealers to check all vehicles with running faults
    and report any case of suspected or fitted kits to contact them immediatley as warranties would be invalidated - just thought i would make you aware as most manufacturers follow suit very quickly regarding such matters

    helps if you read the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_BlackSRi View Post
    So no-one on here will have a Peugeot in their household as well as a Vectra..??

    Not the best..? CDTi 150 anyone
    cheers dan sometimes i wonder if i would be better sitting on my hands and letting others fall foul themselves rather than giving out info that could be very relavent

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