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    Hello there - Im new to this forum - I'm just getting my signum this week and i've heard many rumours about both remaping and chipping. Which is actually better or which is worse as people seem to have their own opinions!

    Are there different scenarios were one is better for a different purpose?

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    Remapping is chipping. Different names for the same thing.

    Chipping comes from the old method where you had to take a chip out of the ECU, reprogram it, then replace it back in the ECU. Now you can do it all via the diagnostics port.

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    hi.
    i was just going to post the same thing!

    iv just got a 2.2 dti sxi 04 model.
    and iv heard a lot about this chipping stuff, i dont really intend to tinker with my new car but am, i must admit, very curious as to if these things actually do work or not.

    the chip thingys iv seen seem to patch inline with the ecu and then give an average gain of aprox 45 hp? (around 300 quid to buy they are)!

    a fella i work with has fitted one on his 2.0 golf dt and reckons it flies.

    i would just like some views/opinions/personal experiences on these things please.

    there must be a sacrifice with reliability,engine life etc?

    regards.

    o/c

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    oldcommando, you're talking about a tuning box. Nothing to do with either chipping or remapping.

    Do a search on tuning boxes, it's been done to death, reincarnated and done to death again on this forum. Generally, most people wouldn't touch one with yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcommando View Post

    there must be a sacrifice with reliability,engine life etc?
    Of course there is,laws of physics an' all that.

    And if you've got any 'weak links' you can be sure that your 'upgrade' will find'em.

    Remaps are generally more kind to your engine/emission system/clutch/DMF/gearbox etc,so if you really want to tune and be reasonably reliable,then I would suggest this option.But it's only my opinion,bearing in mind that none of the afore-mentioned items are cheap to repair.

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    i have got a dtuk tuning box on mine with no problems with the car sinse fitting it ( 6 months )

    but time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by big rich View Post
    i have got a dtuk tuning box on mine with no problems with the car sinse fitting it ( 6 months )

    but time will tell

    I recently saw a young lad in tears at my local garage after the mechanic had told him how much it would cost to fix the slipping clutch and whining gearbox on his "only just a few months ago" 'boxed' Astra 150 cdti (no warranty!).TBH though he drove it like he stole it most of the time.

    Fortunately for you the Vectra has the F40 gearbox rather than the M32 fitted to the Astra,but that doesn't mean it won't break eventually.Not sure about the clutch though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel dog View Post
    I recently saw a young lad in tears at my local garage after the mechanic had told him how much it would cost to fix the slipping clutch and whining gearbox on his "only just a few months ago" 'boxed' Astra 150 cdti (no warranty!).TBH though he drove it like he stole it most of the time.

    Fortunately for you the Vectra has the F40 gearbox rather than the M32 fitted to the Astra,but that doesn't mean it won't break eventually.Not sure about the clutch though.
    thats what scares me tbh, i dont really drive it mad at all, i just like the odd burst

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    Quote Originally Posted by big rich View Post
    thats what scares me tbh, i dont really drive it mad at all, i just like the odd burst
    No prob then.

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    thanks guys.

    'if it aint broke dont fix it'.

    exactly eh?

    if all of the above were all that 'GOOD', i.e super chips, boxes re-maps etc.

    they would be fitted by the factory.
    car designers/developers spend millions upon millions of pounds devoloping highly effiecient and powerful engines tuned to the best of its ability. (clearly within its own breakable limits).

    therefore i am, led to only one conclusion being this.............

    simply in laymanic terms, one cannot safely increase his/her cars diesel engine performance reliably,safely,and long term by easily fitting a 'special little box/re-map etc' as the car would already have this fitted as standard!

    one could go on for example, so called 'super fuel saver add on device' that clips onto the fuel line and re-alignes the fuel particles before they enter the engine thus saving many dollars on fuel a year!' (all said in an annoying american infomertial accent).

    cars and engines are made to best of their abilities.
    want a faster car? buy one! (it will have a bigger engine)

    any thoughts guys?

    once again thanks for the responses.

    kind regards.

    O/C

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