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    Trials have now been completed on a new speed two camera system for use in Scotland

    The box measures just 4" x 4" x 4" (yes you did read that correctly!) and makes it ideal for fixing to lamposts, roadsigns, overbridges, and other road furniture

    The first installation uses a small laser detector and digital live stream video camera
    This is then recorded at a remote location
    This box faces the front of vehicles

    A second camera is located further down the same road however does not have the laser detector but instead has an infra red detector
    Again, this box faces the front of vehicles
    If a high speed is recorded on the first box then it receives an instruction from the first box to record
    Once completed it sends it to the first box and is then transmitted from that box for recording

    The time for recording on the second box is based on the average speed for that road
    Therefore if the vehicle does not appear on that recording then the vehicle may have slowed down to at or below the speed limit
    As a result, the offence recorded on the first recorded on the first camera will be ignored

    An application for Home Office approval has been made and it is likely the system will be in operation from Monday 06 April 2009 with the first installations commencing that week
    So far three locations have been chosen, which will see the existing GATSO cameras removed
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    So, just big enough to be mistaken for microwave vehicle flow sensors on traffic lights.

    Eventually we'll be crying out for satellite-controlled speed-limiters - there'll be so many of these cameras that it'll be the only way to keep your licence for more than a week.

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    Perhaps, if we all get banned then there will be less cars on the road.

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    Its not actually that bad, when you compare it to other speed camera systems!
    If you do notice it then you can slow down until you see the second camera
    This makes it ideal for junctions with high accident and death records

    Look at the number of GATSO cameras placed at or near junctions which may actually increase other types of accidents!

    There is some debate by the Speed Camera Partnerships though as the boxes are not very visible, but they have also argued that the SPECS cameras on the A90 and A77 are also not very visible (although the gantries supporting them are!)
    The boxes will have to be painted yellow, but even then when facing on coming traffic that makes little difference as the front has a black appearance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8 View Post


    Perhaps, if we all get banned then there will be less cars on the road.
    Stealth tax for walking to work here we come

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    source please... i can't seem to find it anywhere (certainly not the scottish speed camera website)

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    scottishsafetycameras.com is considerably out of date now...
    As far as I can ascertain it hasn't been updated at all this year!
    However, the partnerships are up to date, although Tayside has a small error today as a location was missing

    The system is not yet approved, it was applied for at the end of last month but it is hoped that appoval will be in place by the end of this month

    Testing was performed last week and completed yesterday by Grampian Police
    Testing was done on the A981 between New Deer and Methlick
    Grampian Police have submitted details for eight locations
    Tayside Police have submitted details for three locations
    Northern Constabulary have submitted details for two locations (which will also be their first ever fixed location speed cameras)
    Fife Police are due to submit location details by the end of the week
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    well im not that fussed tbh as i dont speed, keep to the limits and there wont be a problem......

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    Quote Originally Posted by m8internet View Post
    Its not actually that bad, when you compare it to other speed camera systems!
    If you do notice it then you can slow down until you see the second camera
    This makes it ideal for junctions with high accident and death records
    I predict alot of heavy braking right after the first box! It's bad enough that people randomly stand on the brakes but imagine it on a motorway, askin for trouble in my opinion, but then I am slightly biased :P

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    more camera locations to get loaded into my tomtom then.

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