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    Default Timing belt fitting without lockup kit???

    Replied to a thread earlier and was told it wasn't really possible to do a belt without the lockup kit but I disagree. I did a belt on my V6 with some tipex and cable ties!!

    Heres how i did it.

    All I did was take the spark plug out of number one cylinder and put a chopstick down and turned engine by hand until stick was at its highest point to find TDC. I then put a few cable ties through the inlet and exhaust sprocket to tie them together on both heads and made sure they were tight. After that i put tipex marks on the four camshaft sprockets and on the crank sprocket then released the tension on the belt and removed it. Made sure all the marks still lined up and then put the new belt on (there was marks on the new belt that lined up with the cams and crank) and then tensioned up the belt. Checked again to make sure nothing had moved then removed the cable ties and turned the engine over by hand a few times then checked again that it all lined up. Put everything back together and then turned it over and VROOM!!!!! Job done!

    Has anyone else done this or am I the only one daft enough??

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    As long as the cams and crank are in their correct relative position after refitting and tensioning, then it matters not how you do it. You don't even have to lock the cams at all, even with ties. As long as the markings all line up when assembled, everything will be OK.

    P.S. I used a piece of wood tapped in between the 2 cam sprockets when I changed mine (done it twice now), and the crank won't move anyway due to friction.

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    only works on some cars .. wont on french cars as i found out on a reno . the crank shaft bolt once undone will spin the engine as the sprocket behind is .. not fitted on woodruf key .. only the tightnes of the bolts hold it all to gether.. good job reno garage were dad got car from round the corner .lent him the kit.. cannot be done with out it

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    Quote Originally Posted by simon1 View Post
    only works on some cars .. wont on french cars as i found out on a reno . the crank shaft bolt once undone will spin the engine as the sprocket behind is .. not fitted on woodruf key .. only the tightnes of the bolts hold it all to gether.. good job reno garage were dad got car from round the corner .lent him the kit.. cannot be done with out it

    Yes it can. A friend gave me a v reg Laguna 1.8 for free with a snapped belt and I managed to do that without a kit but I know what your saying about the woodruf key. Typical French rubbish. I stripped the head off and all the exhaust valves were bent but none of the inlets. Started to rebuild it and my son who was six lifted up the two camshafts and mixed them up. I then had to take a guess which was exhaust and inlet and guessed wrong when it locked up when it was turned over by hand so had to remove them again and swop them around. Was really glad when it started as it cost me around three hundred quid in parts. Sold the car for £900 so a good £600 profit!

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