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    I've thought long and hard about posting this because of the dangers of what the thread could degenerate into. So I'll ask you to think before you post:

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3765



    A member of the Lords intended to invite her colleagues to a private meeting in a conference room in the House of Lords to meet the Dutch politician Geert Wilders, an elected member of the Dutch parliament, to watch his controversial movie Fitna and discuss the movie and Mr. Wilders’ opinions with him.
    Barely had the invitation been sent to all the members of the House when Lord Ahmed raised hell. He threatened to mobilize 10,000 Muslims to prevent Mr. Wilders from entering the House and threatened to take the colleague who was organizing the event to court. The result is that the event, which should have taken place next Thursday was cancelled.
    Lord Ahmed immediately went to the Pakistani press to boast about his achievement, which he calls “a victory for the Muslim community.”
    A victory for the Muslim community, but a defeat for British democracy where topics to which Muslims object cannot even be debated. That, apparently, is what one gets when one accepts Muslims into the House of Lords.
    Lord Ahmed is considered to be a “moderate” Muslim. The Pakistani born Nazir Ahmed became the United Kingdom’s first Muslim life peer in 1998. He is a member of the Labour Party and was appointed to the Lords by Tony Blair. Lord Ahmed took his oath on the Koran. He led one of the first delegations on behalf of the British Government on the Muslim pilgrimage of the Hajj, to Saudi Arabia. In February 2005, Lord Ahmed hosted a book launch in the House of Lords for anti-Zionist author Israel Shamir. In 2007, he responded to the award of a knighthood to Salman Rushdie by stating that he was appalled, saying that Rushdie had “blood on his hands.”
    Lord Ahmed was among the founders of The World Forum, an organization set up “to promote world peace in the aftermath of 9/11 with an effort to build bridges of understanding between The Muslim World and the West by reviving a tradition of Dialogue between people, cultures and civilizations based on tolerance.”
    What does “dialogue” mean to those who make discussion about controversial issues impossible? Thank you, Mr. Blair, for bringing “diversity” to the House of Lords.

    Not reported in any parts of the UK press (that I could find)

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    Some people believe in their "rights" when it suits them. Also one rule for some and another rule for others. Some people react to things they don't like in a culturally different way, which is why some countries have regular rioting and murder when they have political elections. I live with this every day of my working life (the over emotive reactions, not the murders!)

    The house of Lords used to be a pillar of democracy but sadly has become highly politicised and apparently (if the "Times" is to be believed) open to outside influence and cash to change legislation.

    MLC, many of us are as disturbed by this as you are. Thanks for posting it.

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    It seems to me that peoples faith/religion gets in the way of common sence
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    For a small minority - yes

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    i've done what you said and i've thought before i've posted.

    because of this i am unable to post an opinion as my brain tells me not to because the thread will spiral out of control!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboynigs View Post
    i've done what you said and i've thought before i've posted.

    because of this i am unable to post an opinion as my brain tells me not to because the thread will spiral out of control!!!!
    its so easy but my opinion is of utter disgust.

    Then again i do look at this world and think it is going down hill now as there was a pedaphile who was trying to sue the prison he was locked up in for 'infringment on his human rights'.

    The whole lot is a complete joke and the do gooders get to ****.

    The biggest mistake we ever made was joining the european union imo.

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    The film contains some shocking images. That's the first time I've watched it all the way through and the beheading sequence amongst others is hard to deal with even with the editing.

    I know it's been banned (almost) from the beginning and the Politician who made it was going to be prosecuted in his own country.

    The only sense I can make of it is, if the film was about Christianity and included graphs, preaching, images of people killed because they were not Christians TBH it wouldn't bother me one bit. It's one man's views which he is entitled to have. Some will agree, some won't.

    It should have been shown.
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    I know this will probably offend some people, but I like the Australian Idea.
    This is our country you are welcome to share it with us, But do not come here and tell us how to live or what laws we should or should not make. If you don't like the rules go somewhere else.
    If this offends you tough you should probably go and live elsewhere.
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    He wouldn't like my jokes then, I think it shows the dangers of allowing ppl that obviously have other agendas to hold position, and before I get slated, when I can sit in parliment in the counties these ppl hail from then I won't consider it a problem for them to be in our's, until then I feel it's only fair that they don't hold position here, it's a perfect example of an old saying of how you ..... Can take the boy out of ????? but you can't take the ????? out of the boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VauxVeteran View Post
    He wouldn't like my jokes then, I think it shows the dangers of allowing ppl that obviously have other agendas to hold position, and before I get slated, when I can sit in parliment in the counties these ppl hail from then I won't consider it a problem for them to be in our's, until then I feel it's only fair that they don't hold position here, it's a perfect example of an old saying of how you ..... Can take the boy out of ????? but you can't take the ????? out of the boy.

    Problem is a lot of them were actually born here, therefore have as many rights as you and I.
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