My Vectrauma! Well, Sigtrauma really...

[parapaul]

I was taking the kids back to their mother's last night about 5:30. I stopped at the junction below, (red arrow) which is a PITA at the best of times because it's such an acute angle. There was also a queue of traffic waiting to turn right, into the road I was coming out of (blue arrow).



When it was my turn to pull out, I checked again to my right for oncoming traffic, and moved off. As I faced front again, I was confronted with the side of a Clio who had decided to turn right, across my path into the hand carwash place (red circle) WHICH WAS CLOSED! YOU SILLY BINT! resulting in me ploughing into her where the blue cross is.

Anyway, I'm OK, the kids are OK, and she was OK.

Considering the closing speed can't have been more than 15-20mph, as we were both moving off from stationary, the damage is quite impressive! From looking at it this morning, the bumper is smashed, both grilles are broken, the lugs on the NS headlight have broken off, the bonnet is bent , as is the bumper bar and slam panel, and the radiator has a good sized hole in it!









So having spoken to the insurance company, who are arranging a hire car for me, I'm thinking that technically this is her fault. I was, at the time, on the main cariageway, and she turned right acoss the flow of traffic. Surely that makes it her fault?

Anyone's opinions?

[Robbie69]

I would have thought so mate but knowing insurance companies, hers will say it yours and vice versa so will probably go 50/50. Still think if she pulled accross you it is her fault, if I had attended that's how I would have written it up having listened to what you've said. I'm sure she'll have her own version though.

Hope you get it sorted!

[glenboy]

I'd say you were in the right Paul,the damage doesn't look to bad,hope its gets sorted with minimal fuss,gutted for you m8.........

[ed taylor]

Sorry to see what has happened. Paul. I would tend to agree with you, were there any witnesses.

[ditchp]

what exact way were you going matey, as the possition of the cross make's me think you were doing a more or less 'U' turn ..... ????

[VauxVeteran]

Hard one to call, although she is turning across you she was effectively on the main road so you could find she gets right of way as you are joining the said main road, I think it will be a 50/50 myself because both of you have joined a new section of road, I can see how it's happened, she's not considered you at all and has dived over, let us know how it pans out

[merikiito]

Unfortunately I think it may be your fault as you were on the side road and at a give way line but in your defense the design of that junction is pretty poor. As she was on the main road I believe she would have had the right of way against you on the side road. If that is not the case then depending on how far across the road she was would indicate whether you were already on the main road before she turned. For instance if she was only just out of her junction then you would have been on the main road well before her. If you hit her as she was going into the turning for the car wash then I think it would be your fault. I think it I quite difficult to make a true judgment and the insurance company's may do knock for knock. If she is only third party then expect a fight for blame which I think as she was on the main road you might lose due to the fact you hit her on the side which may indicate that she was already crossing the road before you moved off.

[soulman]

what exact way were you going matey, as the possition of the cross make's me think you were doing a more or less 'U' turn ..... ????

think you will find he was the red arrow Rich.....the other person was turning right and heading for the ringed garage entrance .......as has who has the right of way i,m not sure....would possibly be your fault i,m afraid Paul...........unless there is a sign there saying no U turns ????????

[Taffyopel]

No, no guys, read Paul's description. He was the RED arrow stopped at the junction at the top, the Bint was the BLUE arrow who was doing a U-Turn across his path.

At least one good thing has come of this Paul. You now have an excuse to remove the front bumper to refit your outside temp sensor!

[parapaul]

Sorry to see what has happened. Paul. I would tend to agree with you, were there any witnesses.

Only 2 polish guys locking up the carwash, who disappeared pretty sharpish.

No, no guys, read Paul's description. He was the RED arrow stopped at the junction at the top, the Bint was the BLUE arrow who was doing a U-Turn across his path.

She wasn't doing a U-turn, she just turned right unexpectedly. That filter lane is for traffic turning right into the road I was coming out of, and she must have decided to use it for the carwash place.

At least one good thing has come of this Paul. You now have an excuse to remove the front bumper to refit your outside temp sensor!

I'm removing nothing! It's going to be a bodyshop job without a doubt.