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    Default Abnormal (?) Tyre Wear

    Ok....here's the deal.Help please !!!

    Car is a 2.2 SRi Direct.Approx 58k miles.Never been crashed or damaged. Front tyres are wearing on the outside edge (sort of normal!) but 1 x rear tyre (offside) has worn on the outside,the other (nearside rear) has worn on the inside.The last 2 x rears wore on the inside ???? Tyre pressures all ok. Tyres are 225/45 x 17. 'National' suggested a wheel alignment but I know that this may not be the answer (read this forum about it !!) and a full geometry alignement may be required, however I am a bit weary of this as I have read if a place does this wrong it can affect the car's handling big time

    The car seems fine and looking under it today while the tyres were getting fitted, there is nothing abvious going on underneath.

    Any pointers appreciated !!

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    Slightly greater wear on the inside of both rears is normal given the camber the Vec C has - especially with sports suspension of the SRi. A rear wearing on the outside isn't normal.

    Wear on the outside of the edge of the fronts also isn't normal - should be fairly even on those. Sounds like you need the tracking and alignment all looked at - but get it done at a place that has really good kit (which rules out most of the normal chains).

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    There is a place near my work which does the 4 wheel set-up for around £29. They are meant to be very good, however, is there anything that needs to be specifically done during the process (I'm sure I read somewhere that it should be done under load?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmac View Post
    There is a place near my work which does the 4 wheel set-up for around £29. They are meant to be very good, however, is there anything that needs to be specifically done during the process (I'm sure I read somewhere that it should be done under load?)
    IMO, you won't get a full geometry set up for £29.

    It's vitally important that the rear wheels are correctly set up first (camber, toe, KPI, et.,) as this is the reference point for setting up the front wheels.

    So many so called 4 wheel laser alignment checks simply make sure the front and backs are "aligned" - if the rears are wrong, then what chance have you got with the fronts?

    When did you last see someone claiming to do 4 wheel alignment make any adjustemnts or check the back wheels?

    Mine cost £70, money well spent as it's transformed the car and given me peace of mind. You need somewhere like this http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/wheels-alignment.php. I know it's nowhere near you but it gives you an idea when looking for a specialist and what to ask for.

    And yes, they do load 70kg in to each front seat to make sure there's enough weight acting on the wheels - this is what VX recommend in TIS2000 (apparently).

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    I know £29 sounds awfully cheap, but if I ask how it is done etc,etc and am not happy with the explanation, then I wont do it.Hence my posts.Trying to gather as much info as poss. Quite hard to find a reputable place as most people I know have never had it done

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    I'd never had mine done either, apart from simple front tracking.

    Wheels In Motion were a revelation. I gleaned so much from Tony Bones in the hour it took him to set the angles up correctly.

    If I were you, I'd read WIM website in detail http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/wheels-alignment.php and try to memorise some of the key points that effect handing.

    Then go to the £29 place, ask the questions that you've seen on WIM and decide - I think you'll walk away

    I'll trawl the net tonight and see if there's anyone around in your neck of the woods or I'll phone Tony in the morning and ask who he knows up your way.

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    As above, I'd be gobsmacked if they're doing a full four wheel alignment for £29! - it's normally around the £70 for the full works. As gtr said, they may 'align' the fronts and backs with each other but if they're not aligned in the first instance then all they're doing is making them all out!

    John, if you're struggling to find a decent place in your area then have a look at www.alignmycar.co.uk where you should find somebody in your general locale using Hunter equipment (decent stuff). Of course the equipment is only as good as the operator so hopefully you'll also find a place that uses it to it's full potential.

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    Johnmac - post #7 here, 46 mile round trip though, http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?p=741720

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    Thanks for all the info people

    To be honest, whatever it costs will be worth it as replacing tyres all the time is a habit I dont want to get in to

    As I said (and everyone else has),£29 is awfully cheap, but if I go armed with all the good info here and they appreciate what is required, they can either tell me to 'gtf' or carry it out. I live approx 30 miles outside Glasgow (PA19),this place (£29) is around 5 miles from my work (East Kilbride) so if nothing else, it is handy. The '4 -wheel alignment' description is very general.Getting somewhere that understands what is required is the hard part.There are plenty of places around here (National Tyres and exhausts,Kwik-Fit to name 2) but what they can do isnt good enough.In fact, they were going to do a wheel alignment check today at 1/2 price for me till I started my speel about 4 wheel alignment and loads in the front etc. The guy just looked at me

    £12.50 saved lol

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    Meant to ask this

    The suspension is all original and the car is at 58k. If I get a full alignment done and something happens to the suspension and I have to get shockers replaced (distinct possibilty) will this screw up the alignment if it is replaced with standard items?

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