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    Are there to be any POWERFUL engines to come?


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    Yep.

    2.0 Twin Turbo Diesel 190PS in FWD and 4x4 June/July 2009
    1.6 Turbo Petrol 180PS June/July 2009
    2.7 CDTi V6 200PS late 2009
    2.9 Twin Turbo diesel 250PS late 2009/10
    3.2 V6 VXR 320+PS 4x4 due late 2009/10 (Latest rumour is that it is a new 3.2 version of the 2.8T)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    Yep.

    2.0 Twin Turbo Diesel 190PS in FWD and 4x4 June/July 2009
    1.6 Turbo Petrol 180PS June/July 2009
    2.7 CDTi V6 200PS late 2009
    2.9 Twin Turbo diesel 250PS late 2009/10
    3.2 V6 VXR 320+PS 4x4 due late 2009/10 (Latest rumour is that it is a new 3.2 version of the 2.8T)

    I'm liking the sound on the 2.7 & 2.9 Diesels

    180ps out of a 1.6 is a bit extreme?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biscuitman View Post

    180ps out of a 1.6 is a bit extreme?!
    Not really, it is the Corsa VXR engine which is good for 240PS when tuned, it is apparently a very over engineered unit.

    I remember when they said 185bhp out of a 2.0 turbo back in the late 80's when Saab released it was pushing the boundries, now look what we have. 240PS Astra 2.0's etc

    In 1984, Ford did the RS Turbo Escort, which was a 132bhp 1.6 CVH engine!! Technology has moved on so much, so a 180PS 1.6 Turbo today is not that much higher bhp than the Ford 132bhp engine of the 80's but today we have much better technology to apply it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biscuitman View Post
    180ps out of a 1.6 is a bit extreme?!
    No mate, already available in the Astra (not the VXR) and the Corsa and Meriva VXR's. I would imagine in time they would be tunable to well in excess of 200bhp. Following a common trend towards smaller turbocharged petrol engines, with better fuel economy and lower emissions.
    Last edited by john_k_sri; 12th December 2008 at 23:33. Reason: amendment

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    Don't forget the 1.9TTdi unit - is it still coming?
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    sorry ttdi ?

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    ttdi = twin turbo diesel injection

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    doh i new that really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    Not really, it is the Corsa VXR engine which is good for 240PS when tuned, it is apparently a very over engineered unit.
    The same was true of the older 1.3 petrol compared to the 1.6 petrol. I took my 1.3 mk2 Cav (basically the same engine as the Nova SRi) to Dave Bogg's garage in Malton for a spot of rolling-road tuning, and he was very keen to point out that the 1.3 could be tuned higher than the 1.6. He fitted a K&N filter, NGK leads, removed the cold-air diverter intake section and tuned the whole thing as it sat there at 50mph... Got 25bhp more out of it (so ended up not far off a 115bhp 8v 1.8i at the time) - to get more would have needed cams, exhaust and other work to up the breathing. That engine was over-square (bore bigger than stroke) so it revved real easily and had more torque than otherwise expected (ran out of puff at the upper end though).

    I like the sound of the V6 diesels - if they're anything like the PSA or Jag twin-turbo units, they will be something to behold. Hopefully they can be made light enough not to haul the front wide on every corner...
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