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    Won these on ebay which was listed by a member on here

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270273381170

    Question is can these be retro fitted on to my Vectra C 1.9CDTi 150 prefacelift???

    I dont see why not, thinking all they might need is a wiring harness but I suppose I am not going to be able to tell until I get them.........
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    Everything is possible, would need all the leveling sensors too..........
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    Have been looking at TIS and so far its looking good as the power for the lights for both types comes from the same under hood unit A1-X125. the only difference I can find is the auto leveling which is manual on standard lights and automatic on Xenons. Considering many people do a Xenon HID ungrade without the auto leveling then I think I will be fine.

    From what I have been reading
    1.Xenons must have autoleveling (wont have but then no one will when they do the HID upgrade)
    2.You must have Lights designed for Xenons due the different light pattern produced ,which I will have and those fitting Xenon HID kits will not

    So one out of two is better than none if I did a HID upgrade and I should get better results as I have the proper headlights Now lets hope that VX use the same harness for the power to the lights and the only difference is the leveling harness which i hope I can change for the manual version. I can sense the soldering iron will becoming out again just like when I did the DAB radio harness.......... after which I said no more mods................
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    you will find that they will be very hard ro retro fit as you will have to run
    seperate harness for the front/rear axle sensors,power packs that are
    mounted on the back of the headlamps,you wud also have to remove the
    manual healamp angle swithc and replace it with the auto switch as the
    axle sensors adjust the headlamps automatically and with the swiotch its
    only really used for towing,its a very hard retro fit but for me it probably be
    quite easy tbh lol


    theres another option is to replace the front headlamp harness thats got
    the proper harness for the headlamps but you will still need to run harness
    for the front and rear sensors and again theres a rear axle sensor
    harness that can be bought to replace your existing one but then your body
    harness may not carry the extra harness to complete the wiring so again
    another harness wud have to be made up.

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    Do they need headlight washers as well?

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    Looks like he's not that bothered about auto levelling, so therefore wouldn't need the sensors or extra harnessing.


    It sounds relatively straight forward to me, to fit them anyway. Whether they are legal or not is probably slight hazy, as I remember reading that they won't fail the MOT, and as the cops use the criterion of the MOT to assess a car's roadworthiness (or not) then you are unlikely to be done for that. HOWEVER, they may be in contravention of construction and use, and homologation rules.

    Also, insurance company would want to know too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1975l View Post
    Do they need headlight washers as well?
    Yes they do, thanks for reminding me! I think that might be my next mod.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by merikiito View Post
    Have been looking at TIS and so far its looking good as the power for the lights for both types comes from the same under hood unit A1-X125. the only difference I can find is the auto leveling which is manual on standard lights and automatic on Xenons. Considering many people do a Xenon HID ungrade without the auto leveling then I think I will be fine.

    From what I have been reading
    1.Xenons must have autoleveling (wont have but then no one will when they do the HID upgrade)
    2.You must have Lights designed for Xenons due the different light pattern produced ,which I will have and those fitting Xenon HID kits will not

    So one out of two is better than none if I did a HID upgrade and I should get better results as I have the proper headlights Now lets hope that VX use the same harness for the power to the lights and the only difference is the leveling harness which i hope I can change for the manual version. I can sense the soldering iron will becoming out again just like when I did the DAB radio harness.......... after which I said no more mods................
    Due to the design of all the lights in the range they are all suitable as they do not use the glass to direct the beam.

    So i don't know why you just don't fit an HID kit
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    HOWEVER, they may be in contravention of construction and use, and homologation rules.

    Also, insurance company would want to know too.
    Would the construction and use and homologation rules only apply to when the car was first made? Considering the amount of mods we all do afterwards would they all therefore be subject to the same concerns?

    My insurance company is always informed of changes- Adian Flux because my car is so heavily modded were the only ones to insure me and the fact I do 30k plus a year didn't help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sig View Post
    Due to the design of all the lights in the range they are all suitable as they do not use the glass to direct the beam.

    So i don't know why you just don't fit an HID kit
    Well this is a genuine VX kit so I wanted to do it without any issues lol.
    I will also be selling my old SRi headlights to help finance the deal so it will work out cheaper my way .

    Are the full beam and dipped beam bulbs both Xenons on orginal VX supplied Xenons?

    Do the after market kits only replace the dipped beam bulbs? Which means you would be needing 2 kits if you wanted to do both bulbs.
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