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    Default A Few Quick Questions.

    I got a new meg's G220 of Fleabay (for £137.50 delivered, so well pleased). Then went to http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/ at Huddersfield and spent another £90 on detailing stuff.

    I got some Megs 80 speed glaze, 83 cleaner polish for the light scrathes and then the polish.

    I've done the light scratches and put the polish on using the different pads I purchased. I also got some collinite 476s Supercoat double wax.

    I've still got some Meguirs canuba wax (found it didn't last long before it needed doing again).

    Question 1 - can I put the megs canuba on then buff it up as normal and then add the colinite over the top?

    Question 2 - when I've applied the collinite and allowed a time for it to set. Is it ok to use the G220 to buff it up (I have got a Sonus SFX 3 Final finish pad).

    The weather is horrendous here - so having to park half the car in the packed garage whilst I have a play.

    As an aside the Clean your car chaps are internet based, but were more than happy for me to call in to buy stuff after a phone call. They are also very helpful being a newbie to this.

    As always thanks in anticipation of your help.

    Martin

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    I would have got a scrap panel to practice on first if I were you. Use the G220 for the polish stage. You need to refine the polish by using less abbrasive pads and polishes. You can use a polishing bonnet for removing the wax but I don't bother. Finish off with the 476 it is good stuff.

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    Thanks for the reply Steve.

    The sun came out briefly through the rain and in the better light I can see that i have have not got rid of the light scratches despite using both the polishes. My car does have the clear coat on and was expecting that the scratches in it might have gone - back to the drawing board then

    I was under the impression that as the Megs is dual action, so being a lot safer for us new ones than a rotary. It certainly beats the crap out of my old Argos dual action.

    I suspect that I am being a bit too gingerly with the pressure from what is probably required. I have a Sonus SFX 1 Swirl and Scratch remover pad which I am using with the Megs83 Cleaner polish (6 on a scale of 1 to 10 on the bottle). Then a SFX 2 Paint polishing pad that I have used with the Megs 80 speed glaze. I do have a tube of the scratch x - is it ok to use with the machine or is it too abrasive ?

    Thanks again for the reply.

    Martin
    Last edited by mcwharam; 31st July 2008 at 20:47.

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    Well i'll be... didn't know they were there, do they not have a shop front? Just buff it off by hand mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rushy View Post
    Well i'll be... didn't know they were there, do they not have a shop front?
    Clean Your Car.co.uk
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    Rushy - There is no sign up to show that they are there. Once inside it is just a mass of boxes. They have outgrown their current premises and are looking at moving further down the estate. A shop front is next on the list of things to do.

    Really helpful though.

    Thanks for the advice on buffing.

    Martin

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    The megs is relatively safe to use but care should be used for ridges and plastic parts like bumpers. A lower speed and less pressure is the way to do them.

    How fast are you moving the machine? How much pressure are you applying? How many passes are you doing? How much polish have you applied? In this warm weather the polish dries out before it has been worked in so use a quick spray of water of a QD.

    Also what size pad are you using? A 6inch won't have as much cut as a 4inch for obvious reasons.
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    Steve - I am obliged for you taking the time to help.

    Not as easy as the adverts make out. I am just sticking to a 2 ft x 2ft square area and puting 4 dots of polish on the pad. Then doing the north south east west thing and working till the polish seems to be drying out (at first). The more I did this afternoon the longer it took to dry out to a point that it wouldn't. I suspect I overloaded the pad with polish. In terms of pressure I had the dial at 3 to 4 and applied pressure to a point were it was slowing down a little.

    You first suggestion of getting the scrap pannel and doing lots of practising sounds like the best way to go.

    Thanks

    Martin

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    A few tips for you
    Vauxhall paint is pretty soft, I was able to deswirl my car with a meguiars finishing pad and #80.
    2ft square is probebly too big an area drop it down maybe 1 ft x18" or even 1 ft square.
    The megs polish abrasives are pretty rhobust and take a long time to break down fully you will get 5 minutes out of them both. broken down the polish will loose its colour and look more like water on the surface. If you don't break the polish down you will end up with very light and very compact swirl marks that give a holograming appearence on the paint under sun light.
    How much pressure? I use a slow cut method, it uses a lot of pressure to slow the pad down to about 1 or 2 rotations per second but I have it up on between 4 and 5 on the dial. make a mark on the backing plate with a marker and it will help you to see if the pad is rotateing or not.

    I always try my least abrasive options to see if they will give the results I want, there is no point hitting a car with #83 and a cutting pad (sfx1) if a finishing (sfx3) and #80 will do the job. most agressive I have needed is #83 on a polishing pad (sfx2)

    another tip get some masking tape for the rubbers and plastics, you don't want to get polish on them it doesnt look good.

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    Some good advice there John, it sounds like you have the same pad and polishes. The area you are working on is way too big, in this heat you need to cut down your area. I am unsure by how much because I can't see the polish in action as it is not an exact science but I would suggest 11" square with 2 small blobs of polish. The pressure seems OK but I think you are putting too much polish on as it is a large area you are working on and the polish dries out and goes powerdery?

    Vx paint is soft so it should be very easy to correct light swirls. Don't look into the panel where the sun is to see the swirls, get a specialist torch.

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    Little John and Steve - thanks again for the advice.

    Will give a smaller area a try with less polish before I go to work.

    regards

    Martin

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