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    Default Relpy to question about using EBC Red Stuff pads for daily use.

    Hi guys, this is a reply to a PM question which has been asked to others on the forum. So I would like to voice my take on using these on the road.

    Quote Originally Posted by parapaul
    Hi

    Sorry to bother you, but I was trawling through some old threads and found a post by you saying you had (at some point at least!) 314mm grooved Vx discs and red stuff pads.

    That's the same combination I'm looking at - just wondered what your opinions were? I know you do some track days, but how did the pads stand up to normal driving? Some people have said they don't have enough bite from cold - is that right, and if so, how long do they take to warm up?

    Any comments appreciated

    Cheers

    Paul

    Hi Paul

    Yes I have 314mm grooved Vx discs and red stuff pads. I also recently fitted Vx pads & Vx grooved discs on the rear of my GSi too.

    To answer your questions, I had also heared that RedStuff pads were not so good when cold prior to when I bought mine, so I kept my half worn Vx pads to refit after the track days, although they are still in the garage 1 year on, which may say something for the RedStuff pads in it's self.

    When hot
    My opinion of the RedStuff pads is that they will be pretty hard to beat on a track day for not fading as the 3.2 is quite a heavy car to stop at speed and when I took the car to Donnington I was extremely hard on the brakes for long durations, not giving them time to cool, yet they still refrained from fading. Having said that, I did also flush new DOT 5.1 brake fluid all the way through the pipes which I would expect to have helped raised the brakes boiling/overheating point.

    When cold
    There is a difference, but it's mainly with the noise that they make. I can't say that I notice if there is lack of braking performance, but I do notice a noise that sounds similar to when normal pads grind through lack of pad material, which is likely to be caused by the harder pad surface of the RedStuff pads braking against the disc when cold.
    The noise goes when warm, but warm is all they need to be, not hot.

    How long they take to warm up has no direct answer, so I will say as soon as you have braked hard from motorway speed once, or a couple of minutes of town driving (and this doesn't include being stuck in traffic).
    If it's Track Day warm that you want (which will be hot in this case) then the warm up lap usually does the trick

    (front brakes)


    (car in action)

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    Nice one thanks for that. How are they lasting?
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    They're down to half after just over a year. I do over 25,000 miles per year on the roads as well as the track days, so that's about as long as I'd expect standard pads to last me.

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    Go on then, one more while you're online

    Have you got braided brake lines or not? For the cost I was thinking about DOT5.1 but how much difference would it make with ordinary rubber hoses?

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    If your going to do the brake fluid and upgrade the pads paul, doing the hoses is a no brainer IMO. They don't cost much either so are well worth it

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