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    Guys..can anyone give me any advice. I have an 03 vectra 2.2 autogear,47k on clock,last week I was having major problems with the gear change..not enough revs when pulling away etc. Took it into Vauxhall dealership who told me that the gearbox was "shot" and that I would need to replace at a cost of 3200. According to the mechanic the gearbox was contaminated. I have just finnished my HP agreement so can't go back to them. Is this fault a known problem,I have read similar stories,should I approach Vauxhall..no way should a car with my milage nees a knew gearbox. PS it has full service history but not with a vauxhall dealership. Your help appreciated.

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    Sounds like the coolent seals have gone and the water from the engine has got into the box and killed it. I would get into contact with VX direct, but it is 5 years old now. Hopefully someone will be along in a min with a better idea. Fingers crossed for you though mate.
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    If that was me at that price n assuming I couldnt find another box I would deffo convert it to manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 900ss View Post
    If that was me at that price n assuming I couldnt find another box I would deffo convert it to manual.
    How? that would be a nightmare! running all the stuff for the extra pedal etc.

    A recon box would be the next best soloution, probably 1000+ still.
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sig View Post
    How? that would be a nightmare! running all the stuff for the extra pedal etc.
    A recon box would be the next best soloution, probably 1000+ still.
    How? By finding a manual breaker n buying the parts req.
    My guess you could get the bits to convert it for 500 give or take?
    As I say if you couldn't find another box I would convert it.
    If it were my car that is ! But as it isnt it doesn't matter
    No way would I be paying 3k for a new box mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    Guys..can anyone give me any advice. I have an 03 vectra 2.2 autogear,47k on clock,last week I was having major problems with the gear change..not enough revs when pulling away etc. Took it into Vauxhall dealership who told me that the gearbox was "shot" and that I would need to replace at a cost of 3200. According to the mechanic the gearbox was contaminated. I have just finnished my HP agreement so can't go back to them. Is this fault a known problem,I have read similar stories,should I approach Vauxhall..no way should a car with my milage nees a knew gearbox. PS it has full service history but not with a vauxhall dealership. Your help appreciated.
    You are best off contacting VX customer services and asking for their assistance in helping you out with the cost of a new or recon gearbox.. The main stumbling blocks to them going it FOC are that it's 5 years old, has non VX history...

    If VX refuse to help, then take it to a Non VX automatic transmission specialist. Ask them to sample the gearbox fluid. IF it is water contamination, then you will have to change the transmission cooler as the seals will have failed. You 'CAN' flush the gearbox to remove all the contaminated fluid, but it won't be a 'one flush' process as you can only actually drain about 1/2 the gearbox fluid at any one time ( the rest is held in the torque converter) so you'll have to repeatedly flush till no contaminated fluid comes out..With new seals for the cooler, a gearbox flush and a engine coolant system flush it should be alright.. it all depends on how long you have driven the car in this condition.. if it has been for a while, then the gearbox clutch bands will have become contaminated and will need changing as well..At that point i'd get the box rebuilt..

    Can't offer much good news, just a bit of hope..

    it IS a known VX failing and your car is right on the edge of when they started fitting reworked parts, so it may have missed...

    IF vx won't help you, and if the flushing and small repair don't make it drive any better , I'd be looking to get the box rebuilt.. if you don't want to do that I'd sell it on and get another, later, auto with the improved system..

    whatever you do, don't leave it at VX dealers, take it to an auto gearbox specialist who are far more likely to repair rather than just replace..

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    Guys, many tks for taking the time to respond to my prob. I should have added that when I started to experience the trouble I took it into the VX garage, they told me that the coolant seals had not been fixed and that all VX Auto owners should have been advised to get the re-work done...I was one that was not advised. They did however fix the coolants there and then foc!!!, obviously too late the damage was done...after a few days of the same problem I took it back and that's when they told me I would need a new gearbox. I am as you advise giving VX hell..I appreciate the age,but as I said, 47k on the clock,no hard wear and tear..ie travel to work and back and a full service history (though not with VX).

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    holy crap mate, that blows..

    what does the water do to the gearbox? does it ruin the bands?

    if it was my gearbox that had these problems, i'd take it to a specialist, as apposed to a main stealer...

    what were your symptoms before taking it into the dealer then?

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    [quote=Curly7;659622]holy crap mate, that blows..

    what does the water do to the gearbox? does it ruin the bands?

    if it was my gearbox that had these problems, i'd take it to a specialist, as apposed to a main stealer...

    what were your symptoms before taking it into the dealer then?

    The coolant that leaks into the gearbox causes allsorts of wiered problems....most common is 2nd & 5th gear only (Limp home mode)...however, mine (at about 19,000 miles) started to judder between gear changes long before limp home mode activated (about 800miles). Any water in a gearbox is bad news....as GSI 3.2 said its worth flushing the geabox first..but the chances are it will be too late, it normally devistates the componants inside..hence a rebuild is required.

    Be prepared to be quoted between 1600 and 3000+ for a rebuild and make sure you get a warrenty with it. Any rebuild should be done with all the modifications and updated componants (and i think newer software).

    I paid 1600 with a 2yr warrenty....it took the g-box specialist 3 weeks to do the work as they are a pig apparently.

    Sorry.....no good news.

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    I had the same problem. Mine is 53 plate. Vx wouldn't admit liability - recall work wasn't done before I bought car. Only had 2nd & 5th gears and dreaded car and spanner light kept coming up. Gave in and took car to Express Gearbox Company in Portsmouth. The lads there were brilliant. Gearbox is excellent and car drives like a dream. Cost me £1800 with a 3 year warranty. They did a report for me that states there was water contamination so I can fight Vx or HP company for costs. Hope this helps.

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