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    Just been reading an article in the Times and they are now proposing that the use of using the hard shoulder is to be extended to “sections of the M1, M3, M4, M5, M6, M25 and M62”
    Now having used the M42 a few times I can see that it works in theory, as for practice, it didn’t help as the traffic was moving as slowly.
    Now this ‘extra’ lane is already there, so why “Converting a hard shoulder for traffic costs about £10 million a mile whereas widening costs up to £40 million a mile.” Where is all the money going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_the_Scot View Post
    Just been reading an article in the Times and they are now proposing that the use of using the hard shoulder is to be extended to “sections of the M1, M3, M4, M5, M6, M25 and M62”
    Now having used the M42 a few times I can see that it works in theory, as for practice, it didn’t help as the traffic was moving as slowly.
    Now this ‘extra’ lane is already there, so why “Converting a hard shoulder for traffic costs about £10 million a mile whereas widening costs up to £40 million a mile.” Where is all the money going?
    Converting a hard shoulder actually costs £27,000 a mile. But then some "Family Men" in limos turn up and suggest the contractor makes "voluntary payments" into their "security fund" to help ensure none of the workers have any "accidents" and none of the machinery mysteriously gets pushed off a mountainside.... That bumps up the cost to £10 mil.

    lol

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    so wot happens if u brakedown it will cause mayham

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    Yeah, ridicularse idea IMO. Potentially life-threatening with blockages for emergency services.

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    Nah, just reverts back to 3 lanes and signs to show H/S not in traffic use.
    Works well in other areas, like M42.

    The H/S is NOT up to the same standard as main carriageway, in terms of build and durability as it was never designed / constructed for general traffic use. The H/S will not always be in use anyway, just at certain times, with good signage to show in use or otherwise.
    Good idea IMO, and being a motorway regular.

    Clearly, it is only used when appropriate.

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    Great idea at certain times of the day and need to keep it that way.......

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    I wouldn't fancy breaking down though... image the grief you'd get..

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    The M42 also has additional layby s for breakdowns etc

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    Used it myself on the M42 and yes, it's a good idea.

    But those guys up in Traffic Control need to have their eyes on the camera monitors every second looking for breakdowns etc, so they can then shut the lane off again.

    Can you imagine a power failure at Traffic Control and they lose the monitors when the hard shoulder is in use?


    Snowman, you got your ears on?

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    I cover the M42..and we definitely DON'T like it!!

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