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    Hi,

    Does it make any difference to the quality of a CD if it is burnt on the quickest speed? Is it likely to sound any better on my CD30 burnt as slow as poss?

    Little debate we were having in work today - I said I found it hard to believe...

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    Pretty sure The quality is not any better, however there is less likleyhood of getting errors during the burn process. More of an issue when burning dvd's than cd's though.

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    2 things - 1 quality of the burner, 2 quality of the discs. Each has a direct effect on the 'quality' of the burnt image because the inferior disc at a faster speed on a low quality cd burner will more than likely generate more 'error's. Thus slower speed should decrease the error rate.
    Quality of CD (sound) can only be gauged from the quality of the burnt image - you either burn a 0 or leave blank for a 1 - if the burner gets this jumbled up you get error. Thats why - sometimes you get a 'burn' failed on the home computer set ups.
    (Orange Book - will give you the (ISO) standard error rate acceptable)
    So the question of sounding better on the CD30? Provided you do not get an error during the burn - ergo the system reads and compares correctly - you will not notice the differance in variance using differant quality disks - you will however get less burn fails with a higher quality disk - provided your burner is of high enough quality to run at the required speed.
    Tip - forget multi tasking when burning cds, shut all applications apart from your cd burner software - set up the burn and just leave the pc till it has finished. An interupt to the burn (buffer underrun will lead to a direct fail as the cd burn process is 'a serial - direct event.
    MMMM could be time to go back to IT.
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    No quality issues, but burning CD's on fastest speed can cause 'lead-out' errors when finalizing the burn, which renders the CD unplayable. Also 'overburning' beyond the 74 minute threshold is less likely to succeed.
    I imagine also there would possibly be a greater risk of Read errors before writing each track, which means you would have wasted a CD.

    I tend to keep my settings to the first one I used which worked.

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    Thought so.

    I usually burn at 52speed on Nero and never had any problems in my car.

    I lent my mate (who has a Bose system in his Audi) a CD and it wouldnt play, and he blamed either my cheap (Phillips!!) discs, or my burning speed.. but then eventually it worked.

    In the end I said ''you wanna get yourself a CD30 lad'' and walked off whistling! haha

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    I have to disagree will all stated
    If we are talking about quality and basing my statements in what my father which is an audio freak has taught me about the subject. Let me state for the record that he indeed is an audio freak, he even design and build his own amps, speakers etc.
    The best quality archived when burning a CD will be at 1X which means that burns at the same rate of a regular play speed. Burning a cd is like printing on an ink jet type printer....the best quality print is do to a slower movement of that cartridges....same as the laser burning...slower gives a more presice outcome.
    Now....two facts...or at least what I`ve heard.....most burners will not lets you burn at 1X and most burners will flip the right channel to the left and the other way around...in other words if you burn an original copy of a cd....what was originally heard on the right channel on the burned copy will be heard on the left. Truth or myth...don't know...but if that is the case that will defo be a quality issue.
    Now going back to real world....on most players and sound systems...specially on car audio all this quality tangle will make no difference....at least for our under trained ears.
    In other words...burn at any speed, just avoid burn errors

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueRob View Post
    ...specially on car audio all this quality tangle will make no difference....at least for our under trained ears...
    The man speaketh sense!

    I defy ANYONE to honestly tell the difference between an original CD and a copy, no matter whether its burnt at 1X or 24X, or if you make it an mp3 at 128kbps or 300+kbps.

    Unless you've got seriously high-end home audio it's all irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by parapaul View Post
    The man speaketh sense!

    I defy ANYONE to honestly tell the difference between an original CD and a copy, no matter whether its burnt at 1X or 24X, or if you make it an mp3 at 128kbps or 300+kbps.

    Unless you've got seriously high-end home audio it's all irrelevant
    Thats exactly a hit on the nail.

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