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    Hi

    After boring everyone with all my recent issues, it has eventually turned out that my non-starting 2.2 Direct was down to a timing chain failure at 51k miles,some 27k miles after having the chain and tensioner replaced due to a tensioner problem.Anyhoo, Vauxhall have admitted liability and a new engine is to be fitted (on order).So what questions should I be asking about the new engine to make sure I am 'covered' for any future probs (I expect them!)

    Do the engines have their own Warranty? do they need an early oil change whilst breaking in? Should everything go in brand new? i.e. spark plugs etc (the reason I ask is that my car is at 51k and I don't know if they would transfer parts over)

    John

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    Engine : 1.9 cdti 150

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    They shouldnt put old parts in if they are replacing the engine. Just make sure you get some warranty on the engine itself then you will be fine

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    Normally when they say new engine that is just what you get an engine all ancilliaries i.e alternator starter motor injection sytem exhaust manifold flywheel and clutch will come from your old engine they may even re-use the coil pack and engine sensors !!!!!!

    Back in a V6 !!!!!!!!!!!! And lovin it !!!

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    Engine : Z22SE (2.2 Petrol)

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    Had the exact thing with mine mate, 2.2 that dealer timmed wrong while fixing oil scraper ring, car went bang. New lump under warranty.

    Right, the oil will need changing after 1k, I had to pay this but it coincided with my full service so didn't really matter. You will have new plugs but everything else is just unbolted from the old lump and bolted onto the new, A/C, gearbox ect.... You have no extra warranty on the new lump, so if you only have 1 week left on your warranty then the new engine is only covered for 1 week, I presume its the same for the mileage, so you are covered for 10k.
    The only way round this is to pay a little towards the cost of the new lump, about 10%, then its covered for 1 year. Also your service schedule does not start at the beginning it still works off the cars mileage.

    Make sure you get every bit of paperwork you can as when it comes to resale time you'll want some back up to sat the lump has dome 50k less than the trip says., and don't forget to tell the DVLA.

    Hope that helps mate, anything else just give us a shout, ive got a print out of the price of the new lump, you should also ask for this, it has all the work done on your car from new inc services and so on, even prices.

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    a new engine in an out of warranty car should come with it's own 12 month warranty..

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    A new engine WILL come with a 12 month warranty, but only the main lump. If somehing fails that is bolted to the main lump you will get 30 days on that.

    Then you're on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsi3.2 View Post
    a new engine in an out of warranty car should come with it's own 12 month warranty..
    Quote Originally Posted by cbee101 View Post
    A new engine WILL come with a 12 month warranty, but only the main lump. If somehing fails that is bolted to the main lump you will get 30 days on that.

    Then you're on your own.
    Yep, didnt realise the car was out of warranty, but a car in warranty doesn't come with anything extra, just good will. I went down this route with 2 dealers and Griffin house also.

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    Cheers for the info.

    Due to the broken shoulder I have, I cannot drive for another 3 weeks.That's what makes this whole scenario a bit more bearable, but even weirder!!! My sister only took my car for a 6 mile run then parked it.2 days later, a snapped chain

    Thanks for the info on the engine.At least it gives me a few questions to fire at the Service dept when the car gets picked up (maybe get someone other than my Sister to do this)

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    As the car's on 51k get them to check the clutch,any doubt get them to fit a new one when the engines out,fitting should be free as they've got to swap the old one over.

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    Approx how much is it for a clutch for a 2004 2.2 and how long should a clutch last? I may well replace it for peace of mind.

    John

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