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    Default BSR remap and Sports-button?

    As the title says: Anyone who have a BSR remap with IDS+ and Sports-button? Will it do the same as EDS remap and switch the map on and off? Or will it be an hypersensitive throttle response with the button on?

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    The Sport Button will work in the same way with the re-map as it does with the standard map.

    The switchable part of the EDS map is a bit of a myth, you don't actually switch the map off and on, the ECU can only take one map, and with the sport button 'off' it just limits the throttle 'travel' electronically so you don't get full power so it gives the impression you are on a lower power map.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    The Sport Button will work in the same way with the re-map as it does with the standard map.

    The switchable part of the EDS map is a bit of a myth, you don't actually switch the map off and on, the ECU can only take one map, and with the sport button 'off' it just limits the throttle 'travel' electronically so you don't get full power so it gives the impression you are on a lower power map.

    Hope this helps.
    I don`t think that is exactly the case Matt , with my sport button off the car was still rapid and could redline in all the gears very quickly , if the throttle was simply restricted you would notice that charactoristic .

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    I was told before ordering my bsr that there would be an update to allow for dual map switching, and it was hoped that it would be similar to the EDS map of around 160bhp with sports mode off and then full power of around 190bhp with sports mode on, I emailed Bsr last month asking them if the update was avaialble yet and if not if they could give me a rough idea of when it would be available and they replied saying that they know nothing about the dual map and have no intention of ever doing a dual map... But the i can confirm that the BSR map works with IDS & ESP as i have this fitted aswell..
    I also notice the difference in power with sports mode on and off so it may still switch, it doesn't seem as quick with sports mode off.. Might just be me thinking thats thew case though..

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    More info on this thread:- http://forum.vectra-c.com/showthread...ight=bsr+remap

    Is PPC the same thing as a "diesel-box"?
    For those of you interested in technology we can tell that the PPC technology differs totally from all so called "diesel boxes" on the market. With PPC you get a diesel optimisation in all senses, because we optimise the software of the engine instead of mounting boxes and flexes in the engine compartment that distort some signals in order to increase the amount of fuel. Our diesel tuning is just as advanced and sophisticated as our petrol tuning!

    A "diesel box" deceives the control system of the car
    In a modern car there are complex control systems that cooperate with each other to make everything work perfectly. A "diesel box" manipulates some signals in order to either increase the injection time or fuel pressure (that is the only thing a diesel box can manage to do). Unfortunately this manipulation is done entirely without the control system’s knowledge. This means that a diesel box "deceives" the control system of the car and the consequence is that a large amount of values and control data will be incorrect:

    - on board computer shows too low fuel consumption
    - anti skid program (ESP) is disturbed because of incorrect torque value
    - automatic gearboxes get incorrect torque value
    - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is not retained
    - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter will not be optimal
    - calculation of exhaust temperature is disturbed
    - calculation of service interval is disturbed
    - diagnostic system is disturbed

    Real diesel optimisation
    If you want to tune your diesel car and still keep the car’s safety and durability functions for the engine/transmission/ESP etc intact, the only way to tune a diesel car is to make changes in the existing control system of the engine. That is exactly what we are doing with the PPC. With PPC we have total control over all parameters at any moment, and we don’t disturb the safety functions of the car by deceiving the system.

    Apart from an obvious power and torque increase you get the following advantages with PPC Tuning System:

    - tuning is installed in a few minutes without lifting the hood
    - PPC doesn't need to be connected to the car after tuning
    - no loose boxes and flexes in the engine compartment
    - torque comes soft and smooth
    - torque is adjusted/limited on lower gears (to avoid damage on the transmission)
    - boost pressure and air flow is optimized
    - reinstall original settings takes only a few minutes
    - on board computer shows correct fuel consumption
    - anti skid program (ESP) function is fully retained
    - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is retained
    - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter is retained optimal
    - correct calculation of exhaust temperature
    - correct calculation of service interval
    - diagnostic system is retained
    - no enlarged NOx emissions compared with original when driving in regulated emission tests

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    Maverick is sort of right. I have been doing a bit of research on this Sports button map switching and it is really a myth. All the sports button does, as far as throttle response, is to go to full throttle with less pedal travel, therefore giving a feeling of sharper response.

    But, as Big Pete says, it works fine with the IDS plus on mine also.

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    Doh.... So its all in my head then....

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    It is just very clever use of the throttle map. But the ECU's can't hold two seperate maps.

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    Its a good system that BSR do but a bit behind what others can do.

    Have a look Here

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    Yeah i agree Stu, I know of a company that will soon be selling a remap and unit similar to the PPC & IPF that you can take with you to the next car, as long as they do a remap for your new car it will only cost you around £300 for the new map with all the benefits of the PPC to remove it as and when...

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