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    My next door neighbor is building a diy conservatory.
    Last week his father dug out the garden area. About 4m X 3m.
    He only dug out about 6 inch's of soil across the whole area and filled it in with 1 ton of gravel and 1 ton of sand and then about 3 inch's of concrete across the top of it all. "Never even used a waker plate to compact it"
    He's not building a wall, just using the frame full hight.

    I'm quite sure he should have dug some sort of foundation for this.
    Our garden's are quite boggy in the winter "so thats most of the time"
    And quite dry and rock hard in the summer.
    The wife's giving me a ear bashing saying what if it falls down and rips our back wall with it.

    i told he we have house insurance for this sort of stuff.

    I'm not at all bothered by him building this but it would have been common courtesy of him just to say he was.

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    foundations should be at least 600-a meter deep. and the over site should have about 4" hard core 2" of sand with 1000-1200 grade mambrain and about 75mm jablight with another layer of membrain then concrete and screed

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    if as you say he is not having a dwarf wall and if the ground is sound-ish then i would lay a 6" thick concrete slab, no need to wacker any stone down or anything like that, just as a sectional building the weight sit's on the outside edge and as long as that is sound you should have no worries imo
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    Well he's got non of that mate.
    The complete thing will blow away or fall down.
    I need to get some picture's of this.
    Cos i'm sure nobody will belive me on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchp View Post
    if as you say he is not having a dwarf wall and if the ground is sound-ish then i would lay a 6" thick concrete slab, no need to wacker any stone down or anything like that, just as a sectional building the weight sit's on the outside edge and as long as that is sound you should have no worries imo
    I'm not sure how thick the gravel or sand is but it carn't be that thick as it was only 1 ton of each spead over the 4 X 3m square. And then concrete on top.
    He is putting the frame right on top of that concrete.
    No plastic membrain nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shan View Post
    I'm not sure how thick the gravel or sand is but it carn't be that thick as it was only 1 ton of each spead over the 4 X 3m square. And then concrete on top.
    He is putting the frame right on top of that concrete.
    No plastic membrain nothing.
    usualy put a plastic membrane under the concrete to stop damp rising, i have laid many a concrete base over the years and i think although it is mighty thin it will be sufficient for a plastic/wooden conservatory frame
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    I'm getting my camera out as soon as he take's the bit of shuttering away.
    I think it's a bit dick dodge.

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    trust me mate, although i know exactly where you are coming from it should be ok, not all conservo's need a dwarf wall, cheaper and diy ones are full frame and very light weight, the heaviest thing is the roof and bearer's and if this is thin it ain't that heavy..........

    and just for the record if there is stone on show when the shuttering is removed that too is not a major worry
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    When we had our conservatory build the foundation were at least 2 ft deep maybe more then they layed hardcore + plastic and somesort of white foam slab then they layed the concrete base.

    Forgot to say they dug out 1 skip full of soil / turf


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulsvectra View Post
    When we had our conservatory build the foundation were at least 2 ft deep maybe more then they layed hardcore + plastic and somesort of white foam slab then they layed the concrete base.

    Forgot to say they dug out 1 skip full of soil / turf


    Paul

    like you said you had it built, so done propperly with insulation and damp proof membrane and a bigger costing too , this one is a diy jobby and probably a fraction of the cost
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