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    Hi all,

    My experience of this engine is that from what I have heard they all sound 'hissy' and rattley, so I thought it was the norm...

    Last week I got my car serviced and was told he did an engine flush as it sounded a little noisy to him, great I thought until I started it up the next morning and it sounded like a bag of spanners and really loud compared to how it was..

    Took it back to the garage (run by my uncle and is very good) and raised my concerns and his reply was ''its the timing chain then'' - this worried me somewhat. Garage said they would try another flush/oil change tomorrow to see if that helps.

    Should the worst situation arrive - is the timing chain covered under warranty?

    The car is 2006 06 2.2direct that has done an paltry 26000miles.

    Thanks in anticipation

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    Why on earth would you flush a 26k engine?!? No wonder the engine isn't sounding happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _ZS_ View Post
    Why on earth would you flush a 26k engine?!? No wonder the engine isn't sounding happy.
    Does a flush not do it any good?

    He said he did it because the oil was a bit of a mess and needed doing more regular in future...

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    I've had two perfectly good cars that had the engine flushed and promptly the engine died a horrible death (both Renault diesels, both were regularly serviced, both were flushed without my knowledge, and both needed new engines before the following service). Why? Flushing strips the oil film on the engine, it dislodges dirt which may be stuck to the engine drawing them though the oilways, and if the engine is dirty enough it'll block the filter leading to oil starvation.

    There's no reason why you should be flushing a 2.2 even if it had never been serviced in 26k - they're filled with long life fully synthetic which under EcoFlex servicing is good up to 30,000 miles.

    Besides, if flushing was recommended, don't you think every Vauxhall garage would be doing it at every service and charging you a heap for the privilage?

    Of course that's just my opinion - I'm sure plenty will agree that you uncle may well have ******ed your engine on you...

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    I think the engine flush removes the the coating that builds up on the moving parts and keeps it nice and tight. Removing this coating has detrimental effects i believe..

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    Actually, I just remembered - my housemate's Mk4 Astra (1.6 8v Z16SE engine) went in the year before last for it's 60k service, the garage flushed the engine. From that day on the top end rattled, the hydraulic lifters clattered, and the thing drank oil. It never used a drop before the flush, after the flush it was using 1.5 litres per 1000 miles. Engine finally died at 98k, emitting blue smoke and rattling like an old Transit.

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    Oh dear, that doesn't sound to good.

    What should I do next?

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    Yep, flushing and engine can be a bad thing. It dislodges all the crap so it can then make its way round the engine. Its not all removed with the oil. At 26k, it would be covered I would guess. A call to the garage may do it. But they could just say its fine and then you have a fight on your hands.
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Direct View Post
    Hi all,

    My experience of this engine is that from what I have heard they all sound 'hissy' and rattley, so I thought it was the norm...

    Last week I got my car serviced and was told he did an engine flush as it sounded a little noisy to him, great I thought until I started it up the next morning and it sounded like a bag of spanners and really loud compared to how it was..

    Took it back to the garage (run by my uncle and is very good) and raised my concerns and his reply was ''its the timing chain then'' - this worried me somewhat. Garage said they would try another flush/oil change tomorrow to see if that helps.

    Should the worst situation arrive - is the timing chain covered under warranty?

    The car is 2006 06 2.2direct that has done an paltry 26000miles.

    Thanks in anticipation
    Have a read of this thread(opened my eyes as i used to flush my engines religeously not any more)
    http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showth...t=engine+flush

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    well anything is better than mine wich moved 7 notches.... while driving.. price for engine repair 8200£ (in denmark would guess about 4000£ in the UK), everything changed in engine besides the block (well allmost), was made via payment for VX/opel, they picked up the bill, because i had it services done (it is a Vectra C 2.2 estate wich had run 37.000 miles at the time)

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