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    Default Remap / Tuning box info

    There seems to be a lot of questions relating to tuning boxes compared to remaps and the advantages / disadvantages of both and people asking for info on the BSR PPC.. So after seeing this info on BSR's website i emailed them and asked if it was ok to copy the info and put it up on here (copyright issues etc) and BSR replied and said Yes..

    [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']My Reply from BSR:[/FONT]
    [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']BSR:[/FONT][FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'] 02-15-08 02:08 pm
    Hello Pete,

    glad you are happy about our product

    Feel free to copy it, a refer link would be nice though

    Have a nice weekend.

    Best regards /BSR[/FONT]

    [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Here is the Link :- [/FONT][FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']http://en.bsr.se/products/ppc/diesel/fo[/FONT]
    [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']And here is the Info:-

    Is PPC the same thing as a "diesel-box"?
    For those of you interested in technology we can tell that the PPC technology differs totally from all so called "diesel boxes" on the market. With PPC you get a diesel optimisation in all senses, because we optimise the software of the engine instead of mounting boxes and flexes in the engine compartment that distort some signals in order to increase the amount of fuel. Our diesel tuning is just as advanced and sophisticated as our petrol tuning!

    A "diesel box" deceives the control system of the car
    In a modern car there are complex control systems that cooperate with each other to make everything work perfectly. A "diesel box" manipulates some signals in order to either increase the injection time or fuel pressure (that is the only thing a diesel box can manage to do). Unfortunately this manipulation is done entirely without the control systemís knowledge. This means that a diesel box "deceives" the control system of the car and the consequence is that a large amount of values and control data will be incorrect:

    - on board computer shows too low fuel consumption
    - anti skid program (ESP) is disturbed because of incorrect torque value
    - automatic gearboxes get incorrect torque value
    - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is not retained
    - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter will not be optimal
    - calculation of exhaust temperature is disturbed
    - calculation of service interval is disturbed
    - diagnostic system is disturbed

    Real diesel optimisation
    If you want to tune your diesel car and still keep the carís safety and durability functions for the engine/transmission/ESP etc intact, the only way to tune a diesel car is to make changes in the existing control system of the engine. That is exactly what we are doing with the PPC. With PPC we have total control over all parameters at any moment, and we donít disturb the safety functions of the car by deceiving the system.

    Apart from an obvious power and torque increase you get the following advantages with PPC Tuning System:

    - tuning is installed in a few minutes without lifting the hood
    - PPC doesn't need to be connected to the car after tuning
    - no loose boxes and flexes in the engine compartment
    - torque comes soft and smooth
    - torque is adjusted/limited on lower gears (to avoid damage on the transmission)
    - boost pressure and air flow is optimized
    - reinstall original settings takes only a few minutes
    - on board computer shows correct fuel consumption
    - anti skid program (ESP) function is fully retained
    - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is retained
    - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter is retained optimal
    - correct calculation of exhaust temperature
    - correct calculation of service interval
    - diagnostic system is retained
    - no enlarged NOx emissions compared with original when driving in regulated emission tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-Pete View Post
    - torque comes soft and smooth
    - torque is adjusted/limited on lower gears (to avoid damage on the transmission)
    So it's a 'conservative' map then.

    I'm glad that at least BSR think that there could be transmission issues.Certainly with a tuning box you'll get a whole lot more wheelspin (or flashing yellow light).But some people like that sort of thing.

    I don't think that there is any doubt as to which choice is 'kinder' to the car.

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    I hear the Regal kit is really good and well worth the wait, anyone ordered one??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofty View Post
    I hear the Regal kit is really good and well worth the wait, anyone ordered one??

    I believe that orders were placed by some members,but they got fed up of waiting.

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    lol I ordered the regal IPF when they first put up a link on their site, paid a deposit and waited around 3 months, the unit was a no show... Not sure if its available now though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-Pete View Post
    lol I ordered the regal IPF when they first put up a link on their site, paid a deposit and waited around 3 months, the unit was a no show... Not sure if its available now though..
    I thought you'd bite

    Seriously though, the BSR seems to be a real good piece of kit and it would be my first choice for a remap as everyone who has had one seems to be really happy with it.

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    Hi.

    Can I ask what sort of power figures you would realistically see with a BSR PPC remap on the 1.9 CDTI? Assume I've done the airbox mod and added a panel filter.

    Also, I see that the BSR allows you to drop the original map back onto the ECU, but does it allow you to swap between them whenever you like? Or is it once the original map is re-applied, you have to get it remapped again to go back to the performance map?

    Thanks in advance

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    You can change the maps over as and when you want, takes just a few minutes each time.. Plus if there are any updates BSR will email and let you know, funny enough i had one last friday..

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    Sorry i forgot a link with the info on it..
    http://en.bsr.se/products/t1189/

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    Sounds like a good product and a good service! Thanks for the info Pete.

    Are many people from the forum running BSR remaps? Has anyone had any problems relating to them?

    TIA.

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