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    Decisions decisions - do i go for caterman or green or even the crd2. Just cant make me mind up

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    caterman ....just on price alone...

    does just the same job..

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    Do these boxes operate in the same way or is the DTUK far superior in the way of electronics

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    A lot of diesel tuners claim their boxes are the best matey, for obvious reasons.

    The Caterman box is the cheapest and you can see why when you look at it, but the figures from various rolling roads can't lie. What you have to ask yourself is why are the figures high? We all know the box of tricks is simply fooling the ECU into thinking that the pressure in the fuel rail is running low, forcing the ECU to increase the pressure. Each tuner has decided themselves how much to fool the ECU by, and by doing so they're risking too much pressure through the fuel injectors and the rail causing premature failure of these parts. These parts are inferior IMO and Vx know it too and are more than aware of these tuning boxes.

    A remap is a better option than a tuning box (except for price) as the map adjusts more than just the fuel pressure. Most remappers have put in a lot of development into their mapping, some actually with Vx at the ring etc. But again you have to remember the flakey fuel system on the CDTi and the constant pressure the fuel rail and injectors are under.

    The better option still is a remap with either a sports button allowing you to switch between the standard Vx map and a tuners map.

    Even better still is to get one of the advanced tuning boxes that monitor more than just the fuel rail. They can monitor cam sensors, turbo pressure, engine revs and adjust themselves according to your particular driving style within nanoseconds. This prevents the premature wear of the fuelling system as the car automatically switches to standard map (or economy map) when you're driving normally and then gives you full power when you're gunning it.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxcars1 View Post
    Do these boxes operate in the same way or is the DTUK far superior in the way of electronics
    The first boxes released where 'analogue' boxes that worked by a variable resistor, which is simply a grub screw to increase the pressure in the fuel rail. Then a second set of analogue boxes were released with a jumper to increase the pressure by set increments. Then digital boxes were released that worked basically the same but are more intelligent. Now there is intelligent boxes that monitor sensors and adjust themselves accordingly to driving styles etc.

    Also please remember that high figures doesn't mean the car is better to drive. My 1.9 pushed 202bhp & 304lbft but it was an animal to drive and ate tyres. It eventually got too unreliable for me to run out of warranty and so it had to go.
    Last edited by AJA; 30th January 2008 at 21:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxcars1 View Post
    Do these boxes operate in the same way or is the DTUK far superior in the way of electronics
    It's simply a rebadged Powerklick box, so in terms of electronics it's exactly the same as any other PowerKlick box - be it badged PowerKlick or rebadged by another company.

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    As Duncan has said above, plus each re-seller of the Powerklick box is able to place their one set of profiles into the chip, thus making some more powerful than others. Unfortunately some re-sellers aren't bothered about keeping your car reliable and are only bothered about high figures on certain rolling roads.

    My advice to anyone looking at purchasing a tuning box of any make is to have a chat with Mike at Diesel Tuner (www.dieseltuner.co.uk). He doesn't just 'manufacture' tuning boxes but he's also a remapper and an electronics guru IMO.

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    ChippedUK remaps work out around the same as a "powerclick" box (£250)

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    Ooooohhhhhh....ChUK...dirty word on here, Viper....

    Long story but in a nutshell that company's no longer welcome on this forum.

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    Everyone's welcome Paul, it's just companies can't advertise without Admins say so. But I know what you're getting at dude.

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    Well ive decided to go the box route. Cant justify Hirsch prices and dont want to risk warranty so its CRD2 for me

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