Will the Tuning boxes kill my ECU????

**AndrewTi** · 29th January 2008, 22:44

I win, no contest. BSR, updates available over the internet, can be installed or taken off at any time, can be done anytime by anyone, cheaper, second to none back up.....

Need I go on?

**Duncan** · 29th January 2008, 22:50

lol, I'm not going to argue with that - but you knew that anyway!

**cameraman** · 29th January 2008, 22:54

I've done 35,000 on a tuning box, had a EGR problem a few weeks ago but thats appears to be a common fault anyway

**VectraV6CDTi** · 30th January 2008, 00:52

Originally Posted by Duncan

Oh, fight, fight!

They're probably very similar in terms of the power/torque delivery. The BSR has the main difference, and advantage IMO, in that with the mapping unit you get with it you can both remap yourself, saving a trip to 888, and also revert to standard all by yourself - handy for when the car goes in for service/work etc.

And you can sell the unit on after you sell the car, recouping some cash back. Cant do that with any other remap.

**Hideous** · 30th January 2008, 00:58

Originally Posted by VectraV6CDTi

And you can sell the unit on after you sell the car, recouping some cash back. Cant do that with any other remap.

I don't think you can sell it on after your done with teh car. Duncan and the BSR crew will know for sure -- I think one of them said that the software sort of fixes itself to the ONE original car it remapped, and that is it. That stops one module being used to map thousands of cars I should imagine.

**Duncan** · 30th January 2008, 01:03

You can't just revert the car to standard and then sell the PPC unit for somebody to use on a different car with the same engine as the unit locks itself to the original car the first time it's mapped. All you could do is sell it with the original car, or see if BSR could reload a different map into the PPC unit. I don't think the latter is an option they offer, but I'm not 100% sure.

**VXR CDTi** · 30th January 2008, 01:07

How much are these BSR remaps?

**_ZS_** · 30th January 2008, 01:09

£588 - fricking rip-off for a £50 piece of hardware and a bit of software. I'd rather pay a proper tuning company like Regal or the Vauxhall Performance Centre less money for a remap. I mean, other than the ability to remove and replace the remap, what's the advantage of the BSR?

BSR - for the obsessive compulsive!

**shan** · 30th January 2008, 01:10

Originally Posted by VXR Diesel (180bhp)

How much are these BSR remaps?

about 530 quid from LMF. I'm realy tempted.

I want to have a go in a bsr mapped 1.9 and see what i'm going to get.

**Duncan** · 30th January 2008, 01:14

Originally Posted by _ZS_

£588 - fricking rip-off for a £50 piece of hardware and a bit of software.

Yeah, it's a real rip-off when they buy each car, develop each map from scratch on dynos and the open road, spend a huuuge amount of hours developing them, with staff, equipment and overheads to pay for to deliver a quality product with a customer service to match. Yep, they're obviously ripping us off!!!