Traction Control & ESP

**ccsnet** · 14th December 2007, 19:53

Dense question..... but do you only get TC with ESP ? All my Veccys have had it as standard so far but it seems the new C's dont have bog standard TC and I have to ask for ESP... ( he he ESP - you need it now a days with some drivers ) ... to be fitted as an option..... ?

Terran

**Gsi3.2** · 14th December 2007, 19:56

as far as i'm aware, they all have TC.. just not the switch to turn it off...

**JonR** · 14th December 2007, 19:57

my 06 design 1.8VVTi doesnt have TC. wish it did tho

**Flaninacupboard** · 14th December 2007, 20:02

Nope, only standard on V6 models now. ESP/TC is a £400 option on all other engines.

**nutron** · 14th December 2007, 20:43

TC comes with ESP now.

You used to get TC as standard on most models until the change to facelift.

**ccsnet** · 14th December 2007, 21:04

MMmm - not sure I follow the logic of Vauxhall bar £ related terms. I've found TC to be handy in many a case when in wet weather and pulling out of a junction etc etc.... ESP I can follow too.... I just cant see why they took it out of the standard line up.

Terran

**Ian S100** · 14th December 2007, 22:56

I assume my pre f/l CDTi 150 SRi has TC but it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Does it monitor all four wheels or just the any speed difference between the front wheels?

**GazVXLINE170** · 14th December 2007, 23:04

Originally Posted by Ian S100

I assume my pre f/l CDTi 150 SRi has TC but it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Does it monitor all four wheels or just the any speed difference between the front wheels?

Think it measures the rear wheels and then if the front wheels are spinning at the same speed, if they are spinning faster it applies the brakes - terribly though!!!

It is useless in preventing understeer though - sorry to say it but Clarkson was right - chassis is terrible but I wouldn't swap the car though for anything else though!!!

Gazza4

**derby4life** · 15th December 2007, 09:29

Originally Posted by Ian S100

I assume my pre f/l CDTi 150 SRi has TC but it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Does it monitor all four wheels or just the any speed difference between the front wheels?

I didn't think mine had tc caus it never stops the wheels spinning in the wet

strange

cdti sri 150 BTW pre face lift

**nutron** · 15th December 2007, 10:11

The TC doesn't brake, it just cuts power to the fronts if it detects a miss-match between front and rear wheels. If you have TC the little triangle with a skidding car will come up on the dash when the wheels spin.