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    Coming to the crunch now for changing front tyres. Already posted some time ago about this but now need bit extra help to make decision whether to stick to Goodyear Eagle NCT5 215/50/17 or make the switch to 225/45/17s. Best price for 215 NCT5 is £125 each. Originally thought this was going to be much less (105) but price quoted months ago was for V speed rated. Now thinking about Goodyear 225/45/17 F1 GSD3s. Would anyone recommend these and how do they compare to 215/50/17s?? From what I gather this is the alternative size given by VX and speedo reading will be about the same so not worried there. Visually will they leave a big gap between top of tyre and wheel arch. My sister has the F1s on her Galaxy and they look a much lower profile and the car looks like it is on stilts!! Will it matter if the tyres are XL when I don't need these coz seen good price on these ones?? Also is it road legal or bad practise to have the old size on the front and new size on the rear??

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    Whatever brand you go for, definitely switch to 225/45/17. You'll open up yourself to far more choice of tyres and they'll be cheaper as well i.e. exactly the same tyre in 225/45/17 will be cheaper than in 215/50/17 as they are a far more popular size so many more made of them.

    Visually the 225/45/17 are around 2% smaller in terms of overall circumference. You will be hard pushed to notice this difference visually.

    XL - you won't need them on your car, but shouldn't be a problem to have them. They'll have a stiffer side wall so you may notice a (very) slightly harder ride.

    The consensus seems to be, from AA and suchlike, to put the new tyres on the rear. If you were only putting on two new 225/45/17 then I'd put them on the rear and leave the 215/50/17 on the front.

    HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky2027 View Post
    Now thinking about Goodyear 225/45/17 F1 GSD3s. Would anyone recommend these and how do they compare to 215/50/17s??
    Me. I'd recommend them in an instant. Absolutely superb tyres, stick to the road like glue compared to the NCT-5

    Quote Originally Posted by marky2027 View Post
    Visually will they leave a big gap between top of tyre and wheel arch. My sister has the F1s on her Galaxy and they look a much lower profile and the car looks like it is on stilts!!
    It makes virtually no difference. The overall diameter of the wheel & tyre is only a few mm different, certainly not enough to notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by marky2027 View Post
    Will it matter if the tyres are XL when I don't need these coz seen good price on these ones??
    It's been a bit of a hot topic, but I think unless you have the 3.0CDTI or 3.2V6 you don't need XL tyres.

    Quote Originally Posted by marky2027 View Post
    Also is it road legal or bad practise to have the old size on the front and new size on the rear??
    Yes, it's legal, and it's also good practice to put the best tyres on the rear axle to help prevent loss of control. As long as you have the same size across each axle it's fine.

    HTH

    Edit: Beaten while I was typing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by parapaul View Post
    Edit: Beaten while I was typing!

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    The reason i asked about mixing 215/50 and 225/45 is when I've just rang local tyre dealer who I use all the time he said he'd never heard of doing this before and not sure if car would pass an MOT like that. Also how many miles would you say you get ot a pair of F1s at the front end compared to NCT5s? The f1 certainly has an impressive looking tread!!

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    You will get significantly less mileage from the F1's - After about 8k mine were down to 4mm on the front and the original NCT5's on the back still had more than that with over 20k on.....

    You always have to sacrifice durablility for grip....and vice versa.

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    Tyre dealer is talking rubbish if he's talking about on different axles. Perfectly safe, and legal, to have two sizes on the car, as long as they are the same on each axle. Mixing sizes on the same axle is a definite no-no.

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    I'm in the same boat (got to change my front NCT5's) and I had the same concerns, but this coming week I think I'm going to put a pair of Goodyear Excellence's in 225's and put them on the back. Been quoted £81 each all in. The reason for going for the Excellence's is that I think the F1's tread pattern looks odd and as I'll probably be selling in the new year I think it might help with resale to have standard looking tread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parapaul View Post
    You will get significantly less mileage from the F1's - After about 8k mine were down to 4mm on the front and the original NCT5's on the back still had more than that with over 20k on
    Bo*%$*s!! There's always drawback!! Can you recommend any that give decent handling but good wear. I would be looking for at least 15K out of a set coz I'm quite a high miler. I've heard the michelins are pretty hard compound and last for donkeys. By the way Parapaul and totally off track are you para to do with parachute regiment or like me blue light taxi driver??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuzzyD View Post
    I'm in the same boat (got to change my front NCT5's) and I had the same concerns, but this coming week I think I'm going to put a pair of Goodyear Excellence's in 225's and put them on the back. Been quoted £81 each all in. The reason for going for the Excellence's is that I think the F1's tread pattern looks odd and as I'll probably be selling in the new year I think it might help with resale to have standard looking tread.
    That looks like an attractive proposition!!

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