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    Question Fuel Recommendation needed

    What fuel and where to get it would people reccomend for the 2.2 16v Direct for,

    A) Best performance

    or

    B) Best MPG

    I am based in Newcastle so local reccomendations would be appriciated

    Thanx

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    Do you really want best MPG or best MPP (Miles Per Pound)

    Overall cost is more important than straight MPG.

    I am not a fan of the so called 'performance' fuels like Ultimate, V power etc etc. I don't think they are as good as the advertising.

    The fuel companies have a vested interest in you paying the higher charges, and quote IMO dubious figures. Even if you do actually get the 15 miles more per tank, does that justify the extra £3 per tank (based on 60 litres at 5p more per litre) = Answer is NO it doesn't.

    I buy the cheapest fuel around, and do about 600 miles a week at least and am totally comfortable with that.

    If someone could show me PROOF that I am wrong, then feel free to do so. But I don't think anyone can. Some research chappie did some independent work recently (results are on here if you search) and it showed that these 'performance' fuels did sweet fanny adams to fuel consumptions or performance.

    I also don't give a hoot about the alleged cleaning additives to these fuels, firstly I don't believe my engine needs them, and secondly, I don't think these 'extra' products do anything more than 'standard' additives in fuels.

    People seem to be paranoid about clean engines, but actually know very little about what forms deposits, what their effect actually is, and how to remove them effectively.

    Unfortunately, the dealers perpetuate this 'clean' fuel system myth, by promoting their fuel systems flushes which feeds on this same paranoia, a paranoia fuelled by mis-information, marketing and ignorance. and designed to separate you with your cash..


    As a development Engineering team leader for a commercial diesel engine manufacturer, working with emissions and control systems, I can only look at facts. Opinions are just that, some random, subjective almost pointless expression of emotion. there is NO room for 'opinion' in engine performance testing.
    Figures are the only acceptable data, taken from a credible test cycle, in order to assess claims.


    Just cos Jeremy Clarkson says that some fuel is great doesn't mean that it actually is. At the end of the day he is a TV presenter being PAID quite a considerable sum of monies to say what the fuel company want him to say. I seriously doubt whether he has independently verified the claims, or whether he cares how true they are.

    Just my thoughts on this subject.

    And as the old saying goes, 'a fool and his money are easily parted'
    Last edited by Ste; 7th November 2007 at 11:02.

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    A) Petrol
    B) Petrol

    Seriously, clean standard 95RON petrol. It's what your engine is designed to use, unless you go for some fandango engine upgrade seriously increasing power output.

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    Ok I go for v-power as I belive it is better, maybe not so much extra power, but smoother running of the engine. Huge gains are not available unless your running a lot of power in the first place.

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    i always go for the cheapest standard 95 ron available, try checking www.petrolprices.com for the cheapest in your area.

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    I've just put in my second tank of Shell V-power petrol, biggest difference I noticed is the engine smoothness, it was subtle at first (with the first tank), but it's definitely getting alot smoother. As far as mpg matters, I really can't say with certainty that its better, although after a quick check with me spread sheet , it shows I'm averaging 320 miles per tank with V-power. It was lower with Tesco el cheapo stuff averaging at 260.

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    Think you'll find that Tesco 99 is sunflower oil or some manmade hippy fuel!!! Use Shell V Formula!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j13hdb View Post
    Think you'll find that Tesco 99 is sunflower oil or some manmade hippy fuel!!! Use Shell V Formula!!!!

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    Fair comment by Ste, but even without proof I know that V-Power diesel is better. From the first tank my car felt more responsive and it's noticeably quieter.

    I think the extra £2 or £3 a tank is worth it. It's my choice

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    Tried V power diesel, and not noticed any difference at all apart from at the till!

    If you want a smoother drive, you can make far mor difference yourself just by driving in a "smoother" style.

    That's not a dig a anyone on here, I include myself along with all other motorists in that.

    best fuel in my opinion is the cheapest which still meets the maufacturer's recomendations i.e. 95RON in your case

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