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    Vehicle : Vectra Estate

    Trim : Elite

    Engine : 3.2 V6

    Year : 04

    Mileage : 000

    Default Wheels corroded on to hub

    In preperation for mine and fil 4824,s detaling day next weekend I thought I would take my wheels off and give them a good clean/seal and wax.
    As belive it or not the wheels have not as yet been taken off the car. I expected them to be stuck to the hub,s I was correct. So I have put a bit of a how to for those who might be in the same position and are a little afraid to have a go themselves.
    These where the main tools to do the job.
    Large breaker bar.
    Large hide malet
    Wire brush.

    Being engineeringly minded I made this tool some time back to pull the plastic bolt covers off without damageing the Alloys.
    It was made from a large Jubily clip. I cut off the threaded portion and used the plain part that was left and bent the ends over to clip in the slot in the plastic cover, then bent it in half. It works a treat, and saves a lot of time too.

    Under the sill behind the side skirt was a large square box section that the VX jack locates in, I positioned the trolly jack under that.
    Then undid all the wheel studs.
    Do not remove them,
    Now jack the car up so the wheel is off the ground, just high enough so you will not hit the rim with the mallet.
    Now just unwind the studs till they are nearly out.
    I had to give the tyres a good "bash" with the mallet, I kept the mallet on the ground and slid it along the ground so as not to hit the alloy, by rotating the wheel I was able to slowly remove the corroded wheel from the hub.
    When nearly all the way off I removed the wheel studs compleatly.
    By leaving them in till the last minute it stops them from allowing the wheel to fall off and damage it.
    When the wheel was off I gave it a good wash with Meg,s Gold Class shampoo.


    Now you can see how corroded the wheel was. there is a 6m/m wide steel band that locates on the hub.

    You can see the wheel hub is in a bad state too.



    After a clean with the wire brush and some emery cloth all the corrosion has been removed, and a coat of "copper slip" copper grease applied to the wheel hub.

    Whilst the wheels were off I sprayed Meguires Super de-greaser under the wheel arch, and then washed it all off with soapy water removing all the dirt and grime.



    Copper grease was also applied the the "Steel band" and the inside of the wheel mounting hub.


    Finaly put the wheel back on the car and locate the wheel studs back in the hub. Tighten them to the recomended tourque.
    Lower the jack so as to put the wheels back on the ground, and pull jack away from under the car.
    When the wheels were dry I put a coat of Meg,s number 21 sealent on them followed by a coat of "wheel wax"
    Then on the tyres I put some Megs High Endurance Tyre gell on, This is the final result.
    It was a well worthwhile job, I hope it is some use to those who have not taken their wheels off yet.
    But if you are not too sure how to do it It would be worth getting a compitent mechanic to do it for you.
    Now to take it easy.

    Last edited by ed taylor; 4th August 2008 at 16:46.

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    I had to call greenflag to get them off my old vec, they were solid, wouldn`t like to try and get one off in the persisting rain at night at the side of a road !!

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    Jack it up loosen nuts, and the five holding the wheel on, start car engage gear and apply brake, Hi I'm Barry Scott.....CRACK and the rust is gone!!!

    If it's a rear with front wheel drive, just loosen the nuts a turn each, drive slow, handbrake on and Hi I'm Barry Scott.....CRACK and the rust is gone!!!

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    Can I bring mine round Ed cracking job there onm them thar wheels

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    Excellent write up there Ed and some good close-up pictures.
    Can i make 1 recommendation, when you give the inner wheel arch a good de-grease & clean, put a plastic carrier bag over the brakes/disc assembly to stop any muck getting in there.
    Looks like next weekend is going to be a doddle Ed ? Just wash and wax and all should be okay for the winter .
    Gave mine a coat of Collinite 915 on saturday afternoon and a good clean inside today as due to work and other things, it'd hardly been touched since coming back from France in July !


    Have consideration for the deaf, if you're gunna fart, make it smell !


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    Does this corrosion / galling only affect alloy wheels?? I've never had my steels stick like that.

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    yep, it's just the bi mettalic corrosion that sets it off, then the poor quality plating of the inner steel bush accelerates the rusting..

    anyone remember mrs Gsi's old blue veccy C??.. i had to BATTER the wheels off it when i first got it..10 -15mmins a peice..but they gave up in the end..

    and to echo Ed's point.. always hit then rotate the wheel, don't try and bash it off in one place at a time, bring it off evenly.. and NO steel hammers....

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    I have found something even better than copper grease.

    Silver Goop, by Swagelok. Absolutely fantastic stuff and good for over 800 deg C. Damned expensive though...

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    I do this to my cars a few times a year take the wheels off an clean the hubs up
    an coat the lot in copper grease
    also one of the fitters made me a copper disc that about 1mm an goes inbetween the wheel an hub

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