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    Default official line on HID's legality

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

    look here

    fitting HID bulbs into standard headlights is not legal

    However, fitting complete new headlight units, self levellers and washers would be (albeit expensive )

    Of course in day to day use you would never get pulled- until you had a crash and your insurance company refused to pay out

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    That not not how I read it...

    In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
    i.e HID kits cannot be put in normal headlight units. The whole unit must be replaced and fitted with washers and self levellers.

    Oops misread ya post Mods please delete this post!

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    Notice the word 'should' and not 'must', before it list the requirements.

    However, self leveling and washing is not part of the MOT test. As the police use the MOT procedure as a test for roadworthiness, you will be unlikely to be 'done' for not having them fitted.

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    I'm not arguing at all about the HID's passing the MOT test- however splitting hairs about wording of "should" is missing the point.

    What I'm concerned about, and I'm sorry if it's unclear, is WHETHER YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD REFUSE TO PAY UP IN THE EVENT OF AN ACCIDENT, AS THE KITS ARE ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO UK LAW

    Would hate for anyone on here to find out the hard way

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike houston View Post
    I'm not arguing at all about the HID's passing the MOT test- however splitting hairs about wording of "should" is missing the point.
    Unfortunately that's how law works. You must distinguish between must and should, as they're two completely separate legal wordings. One is compulsory; the other is advisory

    Quote Originally Posted by mike houston View Post
    What I'm concerned about, and I'm sorry if it's unclear, is WHETHER YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD REFUSE TO PAY UP IN THE EVENT OF AN ACCIDENT, AS THE KITS ARE ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO UK LAW

    Would hate for anyone on here to find out the hard way
    1. From the article link you gave, it seems that aftermarket HID fitting is not legal. Given this, the answer to your question is: Yes, the insurance company would refuse to pay up.

    2. Insurance companies are total bu66ers and will look for anything they possibly can to avoid paying up. If you've fitted aftermarket lights or bulbs which are even borderline risky/dodgy, then the answer is the same again, I'm afraid.

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    Also the insurance company have a legal obligation to cover you third party whether or not you've modified your car. They have accepted your insurance policy in good faith. They may look to reclaim their costs from you after the event but if they said they would cover you, they will have to cover you.

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    perfectly correct

    that means they would pay for the other motorist who was dazzled and crashed into you ( the third party )- but your financial losses would not be reimbursed- and as you say, they'd pursue you in the civil courts to recover the damages paid out

    Not scaremongering- just trying to establish the situation with regard to invalidating insurance by fitting illegal modifications- would love to have hids but might wait until get next car with them fitted as OE

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    yep, people should be aware that if they do a mod that won't be viewd favouribly by the ins. company they have only themselves to blame when their own car isn't covered. Although people shouldn't be worried that they are going to be done for driving without insurance...

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    My understanding is that these are not suitable for older cars due to the design of the headlight glass. But with newer cars when some of the same model have them fitted as standard and others don't ie. first GSIs and VXRs have them fitted, Sri's dont then it is OK to fit them due to the headlight design.

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    Don't all Vec C's and Siggys have basically the same design head lamp unit?

    Still as said, insurance will do anything they can to not pay out. If you had a crash and a mod they didn't know about, wip it off quick!
    Now I need a turbo to keep up!

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