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    great to see two carriers getting built in the uk,and the work spread around the country.as i do shiprepairs and new builds,its a much needed boost for this industry.hopefully this is a upturn in british engineering and a chance to show the world that we can still build the best ships

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    I was convinced that the pinkos were going to cancel the project and leave us even more in the thrall of the hamshanks. Great news for the navy and for those involved in building these two beasties......

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.O'Rilla View Post
    I was convinced that the pinkos were going to cancel the project and leave us even more in the thrall of the hamshanks. Great news for the navy and for those involved in building these two beasties......
    Me too.

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    Yeh I can't wait to get my hands on them for a 6month deployment should be some good creature comforts and facilities on these compared to the past Invincible class ones.

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    So how exactly do you build an aircraft carrier in various parts of the country?

    Very pleased its happening, my office is on a BAE site so will be looking out for a funnel or two! Only about 7 miles from nearest water.

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    They have different fabricators and they ship them up to the main yard on barges and assemble them up there. It increases production rates etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty J CDTI View Post
    They have different fabricators and they ship them up to the main yard on barges and assemble them up there. It increases production rates etc
    Not exactly, the centre sections are to be built here in Barrow-in-Furness and
    will be launched into the sea then towed to the final assembly yard of Rosyth.

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    We haven't got them yet...the quote was " 'we intend to order'." Much water to pass under the bridge yet...I wouldn't trust this lot as far as I can throw them.

    If they do materialise, there will be big cuts elsewhere. Loss of Type 45 escorts, sale or scrapping half the RN, we've lost half our fast jet squadrons since 1990, The army is hanging by a thread.

    Brown hates the armed forces nearly as much as I hate him.

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    Don't like to say "I told you so"........but I did!

    FT: MoD may delay carrier contract

    The Ministry of Defence is examining possible delays to its £4bn contract for two new aircraft carriers as it struggles to meet Treasury demands for swingeing cuts to its budget. The MoD had been expected to agree a manufacturing contract with the industry alliance building the Royal Navy carriers as early as next week, but that now looks likely to slip.

    Officials have begun to take informal soundings about the implications of a possible delay to the ships, people close to the talks confirmed last night. Scenarios under discussion range from slipping expenditure on the programme to later years – thereby staggering the cost for the MoD – to delaying the programme by up to 18 months.

    The carriers are scheduled to enter service in 2014 and 2016 and had been viewed as one of the few big-ticket items to escape the impending cuts. There is no suggestion that the programme will not go ahead but the talks underline how stretched the MoD’s budget is. The carriers’ hulls are due to be assembled at Rosyth in Scotland in the prime minister’s constituency, so abandoning it would appear politically difficult.

    Last July, the Treasury agreed a budget with the MoD, providing 1.5 per cent real increases every year until 2010-11, claiming this to be the best defence settlement in almost 30 years. But higher depreciation and impairment charges on equipment that has been heavily used in Iraq and Afghanistan left the MoD with only 0.9 per cent real increases for day-to-day expenditure and the requirement to make heavy cuts in many areas. Some estimates put the budget shortfall as high as £2bn. With tax revenues already falling short before the credit squeeze took hold, there is little room for additional defence funding over the next three years.

    It is understood the discussions are among the reasons for the delay in the signing of a joint venture between BAE Systems, Britain’s largest defence contractor, and VT Group to put their shipyards together. The joint venture was seen as the first step towards the consolidation of Britain’s shipbuilding industry. Although the venture could go ahead without a manufacturing contract for the carriers, the companies are still waiting for a government commitment to a 15-year partnering agreement. The terms of the agreement would offer industry a guarantee to maintain jobs and technical capabilities for 15 years.

    People close to the talks stressed discussions were part of the MoD’s wider review of its equipment programme and that no final decision had been made.

    The MoD said: “Periodically, as part of the planning process, we consider a wide range of ideas on how we might reallocate funds. Many of these are not taken beyond initial consideration. The [comprehensive spending review] settlement allows the MoD to proceed with two new aircraft carriers . . . We need the [joint venture] to stand up as a legal entity before we sign the contract – that process is under way.”

    How much longer are we going to put up with the lies this corrupt, scumbag Government peddle.

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    We don't need to build them now, we have the Blairbomb to do war with now, kinda like an atomic bomb but much more eco and powerful, all that happens is the Blairbomb is dropped from an aircraft over hostile lands and it gently falls to earth before deploying the biggest and scariest smile known to man, and if that ain't enough a double deploy of a Brownbomb, this one works by hoovering up all the countries cash in one swoop, buildings are physically unharmed as are humans, but one side effect is that human damage has shown great casualties with regard to being able to feed and cloth themselves after the Brown bomb has detonated.

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