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    been toying with the idea of chopping in the diesel for a 2.2 direct engined car as they can be picked up pretty cheap, are they economical/nippy as ive got box equipped cdti 150. i dont expect it to be as fast but do like a bit of power under the foot! was thinking about 1.8 vvti but perhaps too under powered for me,thoughts please mateys

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    my 2.2 with a six speed box is nice, i've had an average 36mpg across 8,000 miles. Crusing in sixth the engine is nice and quiet, if you push it there is plenty of power, but the engine is a quite whiny as you push it above 4,000 rpm.

    Not driven the diesel, but have heard it! i am still happy at the green pump

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    I had a 2.2 Direct before I had the 3.0. Its a good, capable engine.
    Out on the road its not quite as quick as a standard 1.9 150 (which I've proved with my old 2.2 direct against my mates 1.9) and your fuel economy will drop to around 34-36mpg average. I think it will feel slow compared to your boxed 1.9. The only real advantage of doing the change is as you say cost. You could get a much newer one for your money. I understand, machanically its a very good strong engine - but...its wont set your pulse racing. Depends what your after.

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    i'd go for the 2.2 any day Mark.. it's sooo much nicer than the 1.8 VVti, ( of which folks know i'm no fan)..

    driven both, and i have to say the 2.2 is the one for me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsi3.2 View Post
    i'd go for the 2.2 any day Mark.. it's sooo much nicer than the 1.8 VVti, ( of which folks know i'm no fan)..

    driven both, and i have to say the 2.2 is the one for me..
    seems to be an under rated engine mark , i think ill have to get a wee test drive soon!

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    No cam belt to replace either. The 2.2 Direct's engine uses a chain to operate it's camshafts. That could save a few bob long term.

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    Doug's right on the cam chain, I had an Astra 2.2 SRi a couple of years ago and that 2.2 had a chain. Loved the car until the chain snapped whilst the wife was driving down the M18. At least the dash looked pretty as all the lights came on

    Vauxhall dragged their feet over a warranty repair (we had to point out to numerous different staff that it wasn't a belt, it was a chain and vx themselves list it as a non-servicable part). They changed their tune when their own chief mechanic pointed out that the lubrication mech had broken

    Despite all that I still loved the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug-SRidirect
    No cam belt to replace either. The 2.2 Direct's engine uses a chain to operate it's camshafts. That could save a few bob long term.


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    I've said it many times before, the 2.2 is a much underated engine. They love to rev, keep it singing and you'll have a smile on your face. As for reliabillity, just look around the site for posts on problems with this engine...you'll struggle to find many.

    I'd love a 3.2 V6 but if I end up back in a 2.2, I know I wont be disappointed.

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