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    schutz is German for protection ... obviously the text you read was translated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxburd View Post
    Woah there Big Dave, Waxoyl... I've heard of that... many years ago... isn't that like some mythical beast of old??

    { Googles }

    Ah no! Apparently, it's the big daddy of auto rust-treatments!!

    That sounds like a world of fun, squeezing under the car and covering myself in waterproof gunk.

    Sounds like the right thing, though, for sure.

    The website's not clear - the photo shows it in a can, like you pour it out and paint it on. But the text says "Available in Aerosol, Schutz, Refill Can & Pressure Can"

    WTF is a schutz?

    So anyway, do you recommend the regular aerosol? Doesn't sound like I'm gonna be able to get much inside the frame ("the inner part of it while you're at it") with a regular aerosol can though...
    I guess things have moved on since I last used it. My kit consisted of a self pressured can, a pipe attachment and a small adjustable squirty nozzle gun.
    I believe you can buy it in aerosol can form these days.
    When I last applied it, I slapped it on where I could with a brush, and used the nozzle gun for cavities and box sections.

    Doesn't have to be waxoyl though. Pretty sure there are various types of cavity wax on the market nowadays.

    It is a messy job to apply though. I think I had waterproof hair for nearly a month after laying under the car squirting it here and there

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    A new subframe isn't that expensive to buy, they're about £250 on Amazon

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    Quote Originally Posted by northpole View Post
    get a used one that is less crusty and take your time replacing it... Mine had some rust on it and rust converter with Hammerite made it look like new.
    True enough. Replacing the subframe or (if possible welding new metal in) is the best option. Northpole is also dead right about the rust converterand Hammerite route too. But the big thing is to clean it up and see what you've got. I had a similar problem on a last model Primera a few years ago. I was asked the question by the garage 'Is it worth it on a car worth less than £1000, when my labour plus the bits will get close to this'. On cars the age that ours are, you have to be sensible, unless it is, say, Dog Book's VXR, but even then, I suppose there has to be a limit. If you want inspiration, look at this month's Practical Classics magazine. There's a Vauxhall sports hatch in there that was rebuilt from rust and fresh air!

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    The Waxoyl underbody seal and original rust preventing underseal work very well in the aerosols haveing recently used both on 2 front subframes on the car,cost was about £6 a can far handier than the large pressurerised can that they have ,i sold mine as it was very messy to use .Aerosols are not as economic but far cleaner and easier to use.

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