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    Im having cold start problems lately and it kills the battery, new battery new glow plugs new alternator new glow plug relay as still same think somethings draining the battery

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    Check the list of possible faults in the first post of this thread, especially fuel leak off pipes.

    A bad stater motor will kill the battery as it shorts outs internally.

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    Can I just say a big thank you for this.

    Bought a Signum the other week and it was very difficult to start and was beginning to fear that I'd bought a dud.

    New starter motor fitted on Wednesday by my friendly mechanic and now it starts like a dream

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    This winter my Vectra 1.9CDTI 8v has been a struggle to start, to be honest pulling the temperature sensor connector off in order to get the glowplugs to run for longer did help a little.
    Fortunately I have a clamp ammeter so I checked cranking current... nearly 400a! The starter motor in my car has been noisy for over 70,000 miles but has never been a problem until recently. Got a brand new starter motor from an Ebay seller, fitted today... starts quietly and instantly! I doubt these engines need glowplugs at all in the UK... providing they crank fast in the cold!
    Old starter motor has loads of sideplay, utterly knackered front bearing...

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    hi all new to this site but having the same probs cold starting its a 120 bhp 1.9 8v 2005 engine
    it takes so long to start when cold lots of white/grey smoke but when it does start its fine and when hot its ok
    have replaced glow plugs, new starter , battery seems fine as does altanator
    however the battery look smaller than the box and only 70amp
    could it be the battery or the post/pre heat module
    any help would be great as its doing me head in now

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    I would try it with heavy jump leads from another car or try another battery... I imagine your engine is cranking slowly... as mentioned above I drove mine for a long time with a defective starter. So I well remember the white smoke and stink on cold starts, with the new starter and faster cranking this no longer happens. It might also be worth using a clamp meter to check the cranking current... my one was drawing nearly 400amps.. if yours is in the region of 200amps and still sluggish it is probably the small battery. BTW mine has a 95ah battery and that does not fill the tray either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by riggersg1 View Post
    hi all new to this site but having the same probs cold starting its a 120 bhp 1.9 8v 2005 engine
    it takes so long to start when cold lots of white/grey smoke but when it does start its fine and when hot its ok
    have replaced glow plugs, new starter , battery seems fine as does alternator
    however the battery look smaller than the box and only 70amp
    could it be the battery or the post/pre heat module
    any help would be great as its doing me head in now
    From the first post in this Thread >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCrykhNWOd8

    Voltage 12V
    Minimum capacity 72Ah
    Usual Name FA722
    Output 720A
    Last edited by C-Owner; 17th May 2016 at 21:45.

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    Vehicle : Vectra C

    Trim : OPCline

    Engine : z19dth

    Year : 2007

    confused Bad cold start

    Engine: Z19DTH (150hp), DPF removed, EGR blanked and programmed.

    -New parts: battery, starter, timing belt, glow plugs, thermostat, temp sensor, intake manifold, throttle body
    -Used parts from working engine: MAP, MAF, injector return lines, glow plug timer relay

    Notice: old glow plug from cyl. 2 was black. Glow plug wiring tested and working.

    Warm start (engine or air temp over 10°C):
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    Cold start (engine coolant temp +1°C):
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    -Lots of white smoke
    -Bad idle


    At -15°C (or colder) or temp sensor wire removed (longer glow) -> No problem.

    Any ideas?

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    Found it!!!

    My throttle pedal was giving p1120 and cleaning contacts didn't help. Removing and cleaning contacts of UEC (fuse/relay box next to the battery) fixed pedal AND my cold start problem.

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