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    Hi folks

    Yesterday, my indicators stopped auto-cancelling after turning left or right (had to cancel them with the stalk).

    Trawling through forums I gather that the problem could be down to a plastic lug in the stalk (which is 'nudged' as the steering wheel returns to the centre position) being damaged or broken.


    So a new stalk would seem to be a good place to start.

    The dealer who is fitting a new stalk later this week has told me that it could be the dreaded CIM. I just hope replacing the stalk cures it.

    I plugged in OPCOM and got the following DTC codes:-

    U2105 - CANBUS ECM*Message Range/Performance Error (CIM Error)

    B1020 - SRS Steering Angle Sensor Signal Circuit Range/Performance Error (EHPS Error)

    Clearly the above Errors would appear to point to the CIM and/or the Steering Angle Sensor.

    I wonder whether the above errors have been caused by the failure of the Indicators to self-cancel.

    Any comments/suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

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    after reading something on the internet on a Vauxhall side this is a known fault with the vectras sometimes mine don't cancel either sometimes they do its hit and miss really

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    Mine did this briefly after the new CIM was fitted
    They simply pulled each stalk out and then reinserted them

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    hey John Lost, does your car have ESP?

    It does sound like the CIM to me, the steering is reporting a problem with the CIM and the indicators arent self cancelling as you said... My money is on the CIM,
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    Quote Originally Posted by plasma View Post
    hey John Lost, does your car have ESP?

    It does sound like the CIM to me, the steering is reporting a problem with the CIM and the indicators arent self cancelling as you said... My money is on the CIM,
    No ESP - mine's a facelift non-V6.

    Yes looks like you're right. I've been told that the stalk is simply a switch and the self-cancelling function is triggered by a devilishly clever magnet on the rotator which interacts with a sensor in the CIM, and not the rotator mechanically nudging a lug in the stalk like in the good old days.

    So it's the CIM - installed under warranty 2½ years ago.

    Damn I hate clever technology
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    I have the same problem but only when I turn left. Plasma, I do have ESP, whats the relation? my TC light is on all the time too since before xmas.

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    I read that the Steering Angle Sensor is located on the CIM if you have ESP, and I assume the TC/ESP light is triggered by the problem you appear to have.

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    Don't look good for me I got same problems :-/

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