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    Seen an item on bbc news this days about people struggling to use the tyre inflation kit. fair enough I think, they're a pain. Then the RAC bloke said that often people are angry and surprised to see an inflation kit in the boot and not a spare tyre.

    WHAT??? HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE??????

    A car is likely the second most important purchase in your life, you rely on it for work, for pleasure, you'd be screwed without it, and you dont even know if there's a spare tyre?????

    When you bought the car did you just go "OOOOOOOOOOH, SHINY!!"

    Idiots.

    And breathe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugguy View Post
    Seen an item on bbc news this days about people struggling to use the tyre inflation kit. fair enough I think, they're a pain. Then the RAC bloke said that often people are angry and surprised to see an inflation kit in the boot and not a spare tyre.

    WHAT??? HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE??????

    A car is likely the second most important purchase in your life, you rely on it for work, for pleasure, you'd be screwed without it, and you dont even know if there's a spare tyre?????

    When you bought the car did you just go "OOOOOOOOOOH, SHINY!!"

    Idiots.

    And breathe...

    That's the way public is actually heading u either get daft public servant or natural born idiot

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    I think a change of mind thought is needed .

    People have been used to spare tyres for years and years , so no thought has been needed about spares .

    I never thought about the cannistors until WatchDog highlighted it last year .

    I have recently bought a Renault Grand Scenic Megane and this has a cannistor , so i thought until i found it wasn't there .

    So i went out and bought a spare wheel , jack and spanner from a breakers .

    People will need to check what provisions they have for when they have a flat or damaged tyre .

    The cannistor is maybe good for a flat , but what about a ripped / holed / damaged tyre .

    Also the choice of spare wheel or cannistor comes down to the type of person .

    Motorbility / Disability cars ........... is the inflation kit easier for an older or disable person who can not undo the nuts on a wheel or carry the weight of a flat tyre ?

    But once again , useless , if the tyre is ripped .

    I would always opt for the spare wheel option as you never know how air tight the inflation kits are and like any aerosol will neventually go flat , so you maybe stranded . Also , you might not know how far the next garage is and if the inflation kit will hold up for X number of miles .

    If buying a new car , you can specify what you want in the boot for a spare and the dealer will gladly charge you accordingly


    and if you are caught out one day with a flat tyre , i hope it isn't raining for you ...

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    P.S. == How many people would consider a cannistor tyre inflation kit ... a DEAL BREAKER ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    That's the way public is actually heading u either get daft public servant or natural born idiot
    What on earth has being a public servant got to do with knowing whether you have a spare tyre or not? Just saying!

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    Every car should still come with a proper full-size spare wheel - not a doughnut. To hell with cutting weight lowering emissions and all that crap - we know it makes sense.

    Too much debris on the roads causing punctures to do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_k_sri View Post
    Every car should still come with a proper full-size spare wheel - not a doughnut.

    To hell with cutting weight lowering emissions and all that crap - we know it makes sense.
    I would have a full size spare wheel every time .

    But is it really about lowering emissions / weight etc , regarding the car makers ?

    Or does omitting the spare wheel not save them loads of cash each year , if they put a inflation kit in ?

    I don't know what an inflation costs compare to a sparewheel / jack set , but is the reduction in kit reflected in car prices ?

    It may be only the difference of £ 50 but in this economy , that could be food , fuel , heating , gas , water etc .

    Even if the dealer gives you a choice of inflation kit or spare wheel , would paying extra for a tyre be a deal breaker ?

    I would try to haggle and then walk away , they always take your number , don't they .

    Who would have thought that a proper spare wheel would one day become an optional extra like alloys or sunroof or front fog lamps ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_k_sri View Post
    Every car should still come with a proper full-size spare wheel - not a doughnut. To hell with cutting weight lowering emissions and all that crap - we know it makes sense.
    I agree with you here, but like anything, the items we consider "mandatory" can become an optional extra in the strive to make cars cheaper, more efficient etc for people, especially when a new item like the canistors come along. This is the problem with trying to be green lol.

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    All new Vauxhall's now come with the inflation kit as standard - a full size/one size down/space saver spare wheel can be ordered as an option.

    One thing to note though - I think the retail price for the can of gunk is about £45 - if you use it in the tyre, you still have to get a new tyre as well!

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    Why don't they use a puncture kit,cost around £20 and holds up to 20 rubbers= 20 punctures, simple to use, no need to take tyre off, maybe needs some muscle so could be a bit of a challenge for the ladies but for most blokes it's ideal. I've been carrying one for years on my motorcycle and have used it many times on both cars and bikes quite easily.
    I still want my spare wheel in my car though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFACTORY1403 View Post
    I would have a full size spare wheel every time .

    But is it really about lowering emissions / weight etc , regarding the car makers ?

    Or does omitting the spare wheel not save them loads of cash each year , if they put a inflation kit in ?
    Lowering emissions due to decrease in weight is used by makers to justify doing away with a spare wheel/spacesaver.

    Cost-cutting is the main reason certainly, and remember they don't have to supply a jack if there is no spare wheel/spacesaver. And the spare wheel well is no longer required.

    I believe Opel still supply full-size wheels in some European markets as standard.

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