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    Default Which tyres type should I buy?

    Hey all,

    Happy new year to you!

    Im about to take the plunge and order new wheels for Vectra. I have 18” alloys (Pentas from an Astra fitted) with 225/40/18’s at present.

    I was originaly going to change to 225/45/18’s to be in line with the Vectra 18” alloy setting but after previous post feedback and other threads I am going to just go with the 225/40/18 size again as the benefits of the large wheel are negligible while the saving is noticeable.

    Looking at Camskill (seems to be the cheapest place to get them) and going for the wheels I want Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2’s the price of the 45’s are £134 per wheel. The 40’s have two listed at £120.70 and £105.20.

    My question is over the two different 225/40/18’s which are listed…

    The first are… Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - 225/40 R18 88Y FP TL at £120.70
    The second are… Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - 225/40 R18 92Y XL (R1) FP TL at £105.20 with a fuel saving offer.

    Now from what I can tell the cheaper (second option) difference from the first is that they are XL (extra load) tyres.

    From your experience, knowledge, knowhow etc are these:

    a. ok to fit,
    b. noticeably different in ride handling and comfort and
    c. worth fitting or should I just bite the bullet and go for the more expensive £120.70 options or even the £134 225/45/18’s?

    Thanks in advance guys…

    Col

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldo View Post
    The first are… Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - 225/40 R18 88Y FP TL at £120.70
    The second are… Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - 225/40 R18 92Y XL (R1) FP TL at £105.20 with a fuel saving offer.
    I don't have the chart for the Vectra 18" wheel, but I suspect you will need the higher load rating 92
    The lower load rating of 88 will probably be acceptable but may result in this tyre wearing out slightly faster

    Note that the 92Y XL they are selling has a R1 compound and is a slightly softer compound (intended for occasional track use), not to be confused with R01, and so may also wear out slightly faster
    I suggest you compare the price of the standard version, then calculate the cost over 10K and 12K miles on each to see which is appropriate

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    ok... now Im confused... lol...

    So the 92Y XL's would be better is they were R01 compound and not the R1 compund listed. I googled it and cant find any listed for that tyre type....

    Prehaps another question would be what are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldo View Post
    So the 92Y XL's would be better is they were R01 compound and not the R1 compund listed. I googled it and cant find any listed for that tyre type...
    No, R1 is a compound, R01 is a fitting type

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldo View Post
    Prehaps another question would be what are you running?
    17" wheels
    Started off with Goodyear
    However, the GSD3 was discontinued, so swapped to the Assymetric
    The Assymetric was then discontinued, so had one set of Assymetric 2
    Finished with the Assymetric 2 two years ago, went back to Michelin as I was getting fed up of Goodyear changing the tyre specification whereas Michelin have not done so

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    I allways go for the extra load every time.

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    Himmmmm.....

    Now undecided. Are Michelin woth the extra (is that too subjective to give a straight answer on?)

    I guess the XL are the ones which make the most sence. Will just need to see what the wear is like on them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldo View Post
    Are Michelin woth the extra (is that too subjective to give a straight answer on?)
    I guess the XL are the ones which make the most sence
    Will just need to see what the wear is like on them...
    The problem with the two tyres you have listed, is you are comparing apples with pears
    You really need to compare apples with apples

    You need to work out the minimum speed and load rating, I suspect this is 92W in this tyre size
    XL simply advises that a different construction method has been used for the higher load rating, and so can support a higher tyre pressure (thus making it easier to identify them)

    With respect to tyre wear, you can use the Treadwear Traction Temperature (TTT) ratings on each
    These should be available on request, but you may have to visit a larger tyre fitting centre (such as National Tyres) or contact the manufacturer directly

    As an example the Goodyear has a lower TTT than that of the Michelin, and I get about 2000 miles more out of the Michelin, but the Michelin costs about £15 more
    However, at a cost per mile they are about the same

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    Ahhh ok... well sticking with the principle of 92 and XL then I found these are a marginaly more expencive price...

    Michelin Tyres / Car / Michelin Pilot Sport 3 - 225/40 R18 (92Y) XL TL

    Now lookig at tyrereviews.co.uk they rate almost the same as the goodyear although wierdly are lower for wear (only by a few %). I always have michlin as much more hard wearing.

    So now I need to make a call between good year and michelin .... and this is probaly compairing apples and organges again lol...

    I had thought Falkins may be a better option but they dont rate as good as either Goodyear or Michelin and I need a tyre which can handel lots of motorway journies in all weathers.

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    I have Avon ZZ3 XL 225/45/18 R18 Y95 on my 18" rims. They are quiet, grippy and I love em.

    Quite reasonable too, approx £123 per corner fully fitted, see link below.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Four-4x-Av...item3ccb0ee1ab

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