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    Ive read loads of threads on vw/audi forums on this, basically you remove precat from turbo, fill turbo with mr muscle oven cleaning foam, move actuator during process after an hour put back together, the cleaning foam dissolves carbon build up letting your vnt vanes move freely as they should, seems to be good results from what ive read and a cheap alternative to other turbo cleaning kits, has anyone tried it on our engines or got any thoughts? Im might have a go next weekend

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    I was going to try it on mine, but by removing the turbo as i'm not sure what effect it'll have on the manifold as i've heard it reacts badly with ford's tdci manifold. Didn't want to take that chance. I didn't end up doing it because after dismantling it, I found it moved freely so i put it back together.

    A mate of mine has tried it on his Audi A4, he got a brilliant result from it, and it only costs £2 a can from wilkinsons

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    I think the concern people have is that some over cleaners eat aluminium - so it's fine in the hot side of the turbo, but if you get anything in the cold side it could eat your inlet manifold.

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    Not sure i would do this...

    When I polished my Ali cam cover I stupidly then tried using the foam for the inside which obviously dropped on the polished bit, it didn't just ruin the finish it started to eat through so needed a re-sand it...

    I would rather have carbon the it knacked!

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    Ive also read about it eating ali but as long as you dont put too much in where it would foam back up the exhaust manifold towards the head i think it should be fine, also ive tried it on my old egr valve in the shed and it got the soot and crap off really good that is made out of ali(i think) and didnt have any affect on it, i am going to give it a go and will post results

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    There's only one sure way to clean a turbo and that's to remove it and take it apart.

    Its easier than you think

    http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a4/VNT-turbo-removal-vanes.htm

    Also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqDEBEOF_4

    If you don't fancy doing it yourself remove the turbo and send it to me for cleaning for a fraction of the cost of a new one

    (please don't take it apart and send me a box of bits n pieces)
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Owner View Post
    There's only one sure way to clean a turbo and that's to remove it and take it apart.

    Its easier than you think

    http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a4/VNT-turbo-removal-vanes.htm

    Also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqDEBEOF_4

    If you don't fancy doing it yourself remove the turbo and send it to me for cleaning for a fraction of the cost of a new one

    (please don't take it apart and send me a box of bits n pieces)
    I defo agree with you mate a removal and strip down clean is best but for an hour or so potching and £3 can of oven cleaning foam is worth a bash, my engine runs fine at the mo the reason why i want to do it is sometimes the power delivery seems a bit inconsistant, and giving the turbo a bit of a clean is only thing i havnt done, the vw/audi diesels do seem to suffer alot more with limp mode due to sticky vnt than ours but i think no matter how good your engine runs these oil burners do soot up alot of parts and a quick cheap way of cleaning is always worth a go

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    Try cleaning the turbo actuator solenoid too, these can foul up and cause issues too. What i thought was sticking vanes turned out to be a dirty solenoid, quick clean and it's sorted it out no bother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard.roberts View Post
    I defo agree with you mate a removal and strip down clean is best but for an hour or so potching and £3 can of oven cleaning foam is worth a bash, my engine runs fine at the mo the reason why i want to do it is sometimes the power delivery seems a bit inconsistant, and giving the turbo a bit of a clean is only thing i havnt done, the vw/audi diesels do seem to suffer alot more with limp mode due to sticky vnt than ours but i think no matter how good your engine runs these oil burners do soot up alot of parts and a quick cheap way of cleaning is always worth a go
    All vnt vaned turbos regardless of car manufacturer can get gummed up as they are usually made by the same company ie: Garrett

    Putting a corrosive cleaning agent into your turbo housing is entirely up to you of course, with extreme caution though, especially something that's not designed to be put into a turbo.

    Reminds me of the customer who put Fernox into his Mazda 6 cooling system and wondered why his less that 10,000 mile engine was eaten alive internally.

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    I agree that on the face of it, it does seem like a bit of a daft idea but there are approved turbo cleaning kits available like innotec which are applied the same way and have the same active ingredient as the mr muscle(sodium hydroxide) but as innotec is a liquid from what ive read is quite difficult to keep inside the turbo to do its thing where as the foam will expand to fill the turbo making it easier, i spoke to one of the audi boys who done the mr muscle clean over a year ago with good results, he said he endid up fitting a hybrid turbo and when he took the old turbo off it was still clean he sold it to his mate and is still going strong to this day

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