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    the company i work for has decided to implement random stop and search as people leave the site,just wondering what rights i or any workmates have in regard being searched by a private secutity guard.
    i've no worries but a few of the lads aren't too happy about it.just wondered if any legal minds could help out .cheers

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    Plenty of places do this

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    By law they can't search you and if you refuse to allow them they must either let you go on your way or make a citizens arrest but to do that they must have seen you committing an offence - if they detain you against your will they could be liable for a wrongful arrest/detention. The Police have a power to arrest you on suspicion of committing an arrestable offence but this does not apply to ordinary citizens ( which would include Security Guards) who must actually see you commit the offence before they could arrest you.
    At work though you will probably find that it is a condition of your employment that you must allow this type of search to be carried out and they could probably take some form of disciplinary action against you if you refused.
    Same applies with Store Detectives - if you are stopped and they ask you to return to the store you can refuse to go with them and they either make a citizens arrest or let you go - depends what they have seen. Apparently the big stores pay out thousands of pounds each year in compensation to people who are unlawfully detained by store staff.

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    mmmmmm will have to speak to H R on monday

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    Just tell them not to worry, oh and to stop nicking

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    stop........... how the hell do you think i pay for the mods i keep doing

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    There are a couple of right numpty security guards where I work (leaving soon tho..lol http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showth...5385-Good-News! ). Two of them, when they stop your car at the gate, make you get out and open the boot so they can see inside. After three such instances, I got sick of it so told WannabeCop that the boot was unlocked and I was giving him permission to open it himself and have a look. "Can't do that Sir, we're not insured to open boots or close them, in case they get damaged", (that's always the mark of a jobsworth - falsely blame insurance). I told him I have back ache (I don't) and that I had just spent the last 15 minutes trying to find a comfy seating position so I could tolerate the drive home (a lie) and that there was no way I was going to get out of the car until I reached home. For some reason, they don't ask to see in my boot any more....

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    Its probably already part of the T&C's of your employment with that company, or part of that companies rules. At the end of the day it should be no different to a rub down search before boarding your holiday flight.


    Ah the good old "Jobsworth" Comment. Someone doing their job properly = a jobsworth. Funny that, if a plumber sorts a burst pipe, hes a professionally doing his job, a mechanic repairs a broken down car, hes a professionally doing his job, yet its funny how when Police, Security, Traffic Wardens etc do their job they are Jobsworths..........

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    I was a security for five years, had to this when working for electronics supplier, there we were allowed to "Frisk" people, and it was in their conditions of employment. We were obviously only allowed to search members of the same sex. Car were given a thorough going over including moving things, feeling down seats and everything. This was done in plain sight of other staff leaving the site. Another place I worked, a big supermarket chain, we could call staff into a private room with covered windows and ask them to empty their pockets and take off their shoes, but no contact, and two members of staff were present, usually the guard and a manager, preferably one male one female then we could call anyone in.

    It is supposed to be random selection, but that is hard to do. If you get someone with BO, let them take whatever they want.

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