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    Default Reluctant start, revs dipping and car with spanner light

    Hey all,

    Having an issue with my wifes 1.8 Z18XE 2004 SRI vectra.

    When we bought it the car had a whiney fuel pump only noticible when the car is ideling. Other than this it was as tight as a nut and runnign great.

    On wednesday this week it was a bit reluctant to start and the revs kept dipping when being driven to the point it would almost stall then climb back up again. My wife managed to get it home (3 mile journey) with this issue happening the full way. I then took the car out to see what the fault was but it did not seem to have any issue. It was running great again.

    This issus has been getting progressivly worse over the last few days. Again it is reluctant to start if it has been sitting for a while. Once it's going ti runs great wiht no issues. The car and spaner light has poped up on the LCD display for a few seconds when it is having the issues but quickly clears.

    The car is presnelty in need of a service (I am not sure when the last one was done so oil chance, plugs, fule filter need done. I have already done the pannel filter and pollen filter.

    I have run my code reader onthe car and include the output test below. Some of the faults are old ones (I think) from when the SMD conversion etc was done. I have since cleared them and will run the test again tomorrow to see if any new faults pop up.

    Any thoughts guys and girls on what I should be looking for or looking to fix on the car?

    DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
    OP-COM 090714
    Please add your workshop
    name in the settings window
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: CIM
    Source Address: 0x00000245
    Identifier: 0x000E
    VIN: W0L0----------074
    Part Number:13165350
    Software version number: 12244872_
    System description: DELPH0400
    Alpha code:
    Manufacturing date: 040209
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ECM
    Source Address: 0x000007E0
    Identifier: 0x0206
    System name: Z18XE
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Hardware number:2001000
    Part Number:55354416
    Software version number: 6577915104
    System description: SIEM 0100
    Type approval number: S04004
    Alpha code:
    Number of stored fault codes: 2
    P0100 - Mass Or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input
    (06) - Not present
    P0335 - Crankshaft Sensor Incorrect Signal
    (64) - Not present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
    Source Address: 0x00000243
    Identifier: 0x0101
    Hardware number:0
    Part Number:9191495
    Software version number: 0348C33E
    System name: ABS EBC430
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code: EM
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: EHPS
    Source Address: 0x00000244
    Identifier: 0x0103
    Hardware number:24444336
    Part Number:0
    Software version number: V12_
    System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code:
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: IPC
    Source Address: 0x00000255
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13144230
    Software version number: 8.39 16/03
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: UF
    Manufacturing date: 040318
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
    Source Address: 0x00000257
    Identifier: 0x0101
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170590
    Software version number: 0C0C3303
    System description: 0x41533035393053303232303030305920
    Alpha code: DW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: BCM
    Source Address: 0x00000252
    Identifier: 0x0208
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13168783
    Software version number: C11C87 36034703
    System description: TEMIC04
    System description: 0x20202020202020303030363037363936
    Alpha code: EJ
    Manufacturing date: 000400030009
    Number of stored fault codes: 1
    B3916 - No Communication With Alarm Siren
    (0F) - Not present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: REC
    Source Address: 0x00000254
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170888
    Software version number: 000007D1
    System name: REC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: UEC
    Source Address: 0x00000253
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170899
    Software version number: 000007D0
    System name: UEC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CR
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DDM
    Source Address: 0x00000259
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170163
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EK
    Manufacturing date: 213040
    Number of stored fault codes: 2
    B1640 - Driver Mirror Heater Circuit Malfunction
    (00) - Not present
    B1325 - System Voltage Low Voltage
    (03) - Not present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: PDM
    Source Address: 0x00000258
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170150
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EM
    Manufacturing date: 313040
    Number of stored fault codes: 1
    B1325 - System Voltage Low Voltage
    (03) - Not present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DIS
    Source Address: 0x00000246
    Identifier: 0x0306
    Hardware number:13190895
    Part Number:13190970
    Software version number: 08.08.17.00
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: WZ
    Manufacturing date: 040310
    Number of stored fault codes: 3
    U1422 - Radio Bus Communication MRQ open
    (04) - Present
    U1421 - Radio Bus Communication SCL open
    (04) - Present
    U1420 - Radio Bus Communication SDA open
    (04) - Present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************

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    Maf sensor fella start car unplug. Th maf see if it makes any difference if not ya mafs gone
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    Right, sorry for being thick here...

    Do I start the car then unplug the maf or do I unplug the maf then start the car? IF it's working what should happen and if its not working what should happen?

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    Start it mate leave maf plug in then once it's running unplug it see if there's any change go try it the report Bak lmao
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    Just tried it. Started a bit reluctantly but after a second or so it burst into life. No spaner flash on the screen.

    Unpluged the maf and the res seemed to fluctuatle and the emisions light came on the dash.

    Ran the code reador on it and got this...

    DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
    OP-COM 090714
    Please add your workshop
    name in the settings window
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: CIM
    Source Address: 0x00000245
    Identifier: 0x000E
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13165350
    Software version number: 12244872_
    System description: DELPH0400
    Alpha code:
    Manufacturing date: 040209
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ECM
    Source Address: 0x000007E0
    Identifier: 0x0206
    System name: Z18XE
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Hardware number:2001000
    Part Number:55354416
    Software version number: 6577915104
    System description: SIEM 0100
    Type approval number: S04004
    Alpha code:
    Number of stored fault codes: 2
    P0110 - Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit High Input
    (14) - Not present
    P0100 - Mass Or Volume Air Flow Circuit Low Input
    (06) - Not present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
    Source Address: 0x00000243
    Identifier: 0x0101
    Hardware number:0
    Part Number:9191495
    Software version number: 0348C33E
    System name: ABS EBC430
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code: EM
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: EHPS
    Source Address: 0x00000244
    Identifier: 0x0103
    Hardware number:24444336
    Part Number:0
    Software version number: V12_
    System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code:
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: IPC
    Source Address: 0x00000255
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13144230
    Software version number: 8.39 16/03
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: UF
    Manufacturing date: 040318
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
    Source Address: 0x00000257
    Identifier: 0x0101
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170590
    Software version number: 0C0C3303
    System description: 0x41533035393053303232303030305920
    Alpha code: DW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: BCM
    Source Address: 0x00000252
    Identifier: 0x0208
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13168783
    Software version number: C11C87 36034703
    System description: TEMIC04
    System description: 0x20202020202020303030363037363936
    Alpha code: EJ
    Manufacturing date: 000400030009
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: REC
    Source Address: 0x00000254
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170888
    Software version number: 000007D1
    System name: REC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: UEC
    Source Address: 0x00000253
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170899
    Software version number: 000007D0
    System name: UEC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CR
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DDM
    Source Address: 0x00000259
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170163
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EK
    Manufacturing date: 213040
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: PDM
    Source Address: 0x00000258
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170150
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EM
    Manufacturing date: 313040
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DIS
    Source Address: 0x00000246
    Identifier: 0x0306
    Hardware number:13190895
    Part Number:13190970
    Software version number: 08.08.17.00
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: WZ
    Manufacturing date: 040310
    Number of stored fault codes: 3
    U1420 - Radio Bus Communication SDA open
    (04) - Present
    U1421 - Radio Bus Communication SCL open
    (04) - Present
    U1422 - Radio Bus Communication MRQ open
    (04) - Present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************

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    Hmmmm could be cam shaft positions sensor
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    would that only cause an isseu when the engine is cold and not userd for a while?

    When the engine is warm its running like a dream.

    I had wondered if it was the fuel pump finaly giving up the goast causing lack of presure when turning over?

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    I would think if it was the pump it would be all the time matey when was it last services
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    We bought it in the summer and it was meant to have been serviced as part of the sale although I am not conviced of this as the oil is very dirty etc.

    Do you think a plugs, fule filter and oil;d change could imprve the situation?

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    Just tried starting the car after it has sat all night. It was very reluctant to start and has put the car with the spasner light on the dash. Revs seemed to be fluctuating up and down also. Put the code reader on and it has listed this fault...

    DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
    OP-COM 090714
    Please add your workshop
    name in the settings window
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: CIM
    Source Address: 0x00000245
    Identifier: 0x000E
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13165350
    Software version number: 12244872_
    System description: DELPH0400
    Alpha code:
    Manufacturing date: 040209
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ECM
    Source Address: 0x000007E0
    Identifier: 0x0206
    System name: Z18XE
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Hardware number:2001000
    Part Number:55354416
    Software version number: 6577915104
    System description: SIEM 0100
    Type approval number: S04004
    Alpha code:
    Number of stored fault codes: 1
    P0335 - Crankshaft Sensor Incorrect Signal
    (64) - Present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
    Source Address: 0x00000243
    Identifier: 0x0101
    Hardware number:0
    Part Number:9191495
    Software version number: 0348C33E
    System name: ABS EBC430
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code: EM
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: EHPS
    Source Address: 0x00000244
    Identifier: 0x0103
    Hardware number:24444336
    Part Number:0
    Software version number: V12_
    System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
    System description: TRW 0300
    Alpha code:
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: IPC
    Source Address: 0x00000255
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13144230
    Software version number: 8.39 16/03
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: UF
    Manufacturing date: 040318
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
    Source Address: 0x00000257
    Identifier: 0x0101
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170590
    Software version number: 0C0C3303
    System description: 0x41533035393053303232303030305920
    Alpha code: DW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: BCM
    Source Address: 0x00000252
    Identifier: 0x0208
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13168783
    Software version number: C11C87 36034703
    System description: TEMIC04
    System description: 0x20202020202020303030363037363936
    Alpha code: EJ
    Manufacturing date: 000400030009
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: REC
    Source Address: 0x00000254
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170888
    Software version number: 000007D1
    System name: REC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CW
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: UEC
    Source Address: 0x00000253
    Identifier: 0x0102
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170899
    Software version number: 000007D0
    System name: UEC
    System description: LEAR 0400
    Alpha code: CR
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DDM
    Source Address: 0x00000259
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170163
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EK
    Manufacturing date: 213040
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: PDM
    Source Address: 0x00000258
    Identifier: 0x0103
    VIN: W0L0ZCF6848071074
    Part Number:13170150
    Software version number: OP1D 190000
    System description: SIEM 0401
    Alpha code: EM
    Manufacturing date: 313040
    No fault codes stored.
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
    **********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
    Source Address: DIS
    Source Address: 0x00000246
    Identifier: 0x0306
    Hardware number:13190895
    Part Number:13190970
    Software version number: 08.08.17.00
    System description: VDO 0400
    Alpha code: WZ
    Manufacturing date: 040310
    Number of stored fault codes: 3
    U1420 - Radio Bus Communication SDA open
    (04) - Present
    U1421 - Radio Bus Communication SCL open
    (04) - Present
    U1422 - Radio Bus Communication MRQ open
    (04) - Present
    **********************ECU ID ENDS**********************



    So I am guessing it's the crank sensor which is out. OR at the very least it is part of the problem. Going to get the car to Vauxhall tomorrow and get them to check it over. It needs a service anyway so will get that done at the same time.

    Are crank sensors expencive to replace?

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