User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13

Thread: End of VED?

  1. #1
    Regular Member Das's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Here
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    rolleyes End of VED?

    Well i see, according to last weeks Auto Express anyway, the Government is at last looking at scrapping VED. But as you would expect its not going to be a simplified easy to understand replacement.
    Most people I speak to would like to see an extra tax (5-10p) on a Litre of fuel. This is, imo, a win win for everyone inc the Government. It means everyone pays, theres no getting around paying it, if you do 3k miles a year you pay accordingly, and if you do 40k miles a year Ditto, if you have a gas guzzling Range Rover/Ferrari/Madza rx8 then also your paying from a tree hugging greenhouse gas side of things too.
    Simples, yes? No. Apparently, if this goes through, you will now pay a Purchase Tax when you buy a brand new car, on anything that emits more than 94g co2. Anything over 94g will see a charge of £50 per gram of co2. So lets take a Corsa 1.0. 55.4mpg, but 120g co2, hardly a fluffy bunny killer is it. List price is £9495 at the moment, new list price would be £1300 extra, a Insignia VXR would cost a staggering £7750 more!!! Now its good news for those of us who dont buy new cars, no more tax and suddenly those 2.8T vec and siggys look like a good buy. But lets look at the bigger picture. The only people who will buy new cars are the rich and company car drivers(same thing?)(might need a bigger boat there), so the car industry will suffer as joe blogs either buys an eco box or a second hand car. The car dealer looses out because it will mean he now cant pre register cars as he's not taking the extra hit just to make this months sales look good. The second hand market will also suffer as second hand prices will rise as demand becomes higher. So the Government looses out and taxes have to by increased to help cover the looses, so hard working man looses out as usual, and the rich, well they don't care because they have loads of spare cash anyway.
    To the Government I say either put it back to where it was and everyone pays £120 a year or put 5-10p on a lt of fuel and those who do more miles and/or cause more pollution pay for that pleasure at the pumps.

    Have a nice Saturday Ya'all,
    Das.

  2. #2
    Forum Moderator John LE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Forfar, Scotland
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    couldn't agree more buddy

  3. #3
    Forum Moderator Leemarksmith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hanging Heaton / Batley
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I love to see a political argument that actually makes sense, shows both sides and the pro's & cons... Makes a better read then the Facebook keyboard politicians that have slowly cropped up over the last few months

    I would def go out and buy a VXR tho, but as said, where do you go in 5/10 years time

  4. #4
    Regular Member Phil881's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I agree completely...however I think it would have to be more than 5 to 10p/L

    Mr Avarage doing 10,000 miles per year at 40 mpg would use just over 1,000 litres of fuel and so under you scheme only pay £50 to £100 in road tax. given the avarage cost of road tax at the moment I can't help but think that Mr HMRC is going to want more.

  5. #5
    Regular Member Das's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Here
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil881 View Post
    I agree completely...however I think it would have to be more than 5 to 10p/L

    Mr Avarage doing 10,000 miles per year at 40 mpg would use just over 1,000 litres of fuel and so under you scheme only pay £50 to £100 in road tax. given the avarage cost of road tax at the moment I can't help but think that Mr HMRC is going to want more.
    But he does get more, because he then gets the extra from those who run around in untaxed cars.Then those cars that qualify for no VED or the £30 band then pay for the miles that they do too. A below 100g co2 car still produces co2, in fact if someone running a car that falls into the less than 100g of c02 bracket does 13k miles a year they are producing the same co2 a year that I am, yet I have to pay £195 a year in VED. In any other walk of life thats called Discrimination, and you just wouldnt be allowed to do it. Then he gets the people who would like to run a second car as a weekend car too. People like Spoons only buy 6 months VED and run it as a summer car only, but there are always going to be days in the latter months that he may have wanted to take his car out for a blast. Look at all the pre 71 cars that dont have to pay tax either, he gets money now from them too.

  6. #6
    Regular Member richy1974's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    leek
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I agree with most of it but for the extra tax on buying a new car.
    I will never buy a new car unless i win a load of cash but a lot of people buy new so i think this would be a bad idea

  7. #7
    Regular Member Phil881's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DasArab View Post
    But he does get more, because he then gets the extra from those who run around in untaxed cars.Then those cars that qualify for no VED or the £30 band then pay for the miles that they do too. A below 100g co2 car still produces co2, in fact if someone running a car that falls into the less than 100g of c02 bracket does 13k miles a year they are producing the same co2 a year that I am, yet I have to pay £195 a year in VED. In any other walk of life thats called Discrimination, and you just wouldnt be allowed to do it. Then he gets the people who would like to run a second car as a weekend car too. People like Spoons only buy 6 months VED and run it as a summer car only, but there are always going to be days in the latter months that he may have wanted to take his car out for a blast. Look at all the pre 71 cars that dont have to pay tax either, he gets money now from them too.
    I do hope you're right, I currently have 2 cars a van and a motorbike, all of which are on the road with T&T all year round. I can only drive one at a time so under your system I only pay VED while actually driving. .

    DasArab for Prime Minister!!!!

  8. #8
    Full Member chrisvectra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Are you VXR Enough
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Well whatever happens the money dosnt still dosnt get spent on the roads and potholes grrrrrr
    VXR IS FOR LIFE NOT JUST FOR THRILLS !



  9. #9
    Regular Member Das's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Here
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    23 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Agree'd. Even if they were to ring fenced 75% of VED for road maintenance it would be a big improvement. Too many junkies and illegal immigrants out there to look after first though I suppose. I do wonder if its about time Illegal drugs were made legal. Imagine the taxes the government would gain overnight with that one, controversial I know. The NHS and Social Services are already forking out for services that have no actual income, at least Drink and Tobacco pay taxes.

  10. #10
    Full Member GazVXLINE170's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Scotland
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    StatsVehicle Info
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    £50/gram over 94g? That works out on a CDTI 150 at £3,150 tax per year. Put it back or stay as is.

    Better idea, bin the stupid VED we already pay enough in the fuel duty anyway. Sorry the whole lot rings Money Makeing Racket to me of no benefit to working Joe Public whatsoever. I can see the script coming a mile away - there will be a 'benefit' for the lazy ones. There always is, always has been.

    I also heard there was a possibility of the roads being privatised and tolls going up, lets be honest it's half way there anyway as maintenance for mosts if not all is by contractors.
    Last edited by GazVXLINE170; 21st October 2012 at 22:56.
    Insignia VX-Line Nav CDTI 170.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Visitors found this page by searching for:

Nobody landed on this page from a search engine, yet!

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •